Posted on 05/28/2006 9:59:32 AM PDT by Perdogg
The woman who has accused three Duke University men's lacrosse players of raping her failed to identify at least one of them in a photo array eight days after the reported attack, according to a motion filed Friday by defense attorneys. The motion also says that she then selected him as an attacker more than two weeks later.
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They may not have known her name, but they knew it was the same person who drove Mangum to Kroger's. It's in the dispatch tapes.
Thanks, I am guessing Tracey Cline doesn't think this postponement is "fundamentally unfair" then.
I don't know all the ins and outs of that strategy and I'm sure it's very complex. I do know the families of anyone on the lease of that house better get ready because a SUPER-SIZE lawsuit is coming to a Durham Civil Court near you.
Blacks on that Civil Jury will be eager to hand over more money than the Federal Reserve prints in a decade.
What a surprise!
I think it's clear that neither Shelton nor Roberts are going to perjure themselves to cover Nifong's tail.
The ho's at the party are not feminist. I was talking about the feminist defending them and this witch hunt on tv and in the newspapers.
If Nifong lied, he lied to more than Abrams. He said on National TV many times that the ID of the first 911 caller was unknown.
The Police spokesman made offical statements and ads were placed asking for the individual to come forward.
This is serious because so much is on record in this case. Nifong was asked point blank: Do you know the Identity of the first 911 caller? He said, NO.
There's not much wiggle room there.
Sure, they're looking to the civil case to exonerate a black woman from obviously filing false charges and fatten their own coffers in the process. That's why Reade Seligmann should sue Mangum.
I think Tory Peterson, probably the biggest big mouth in Durham, is in for a rough ride if she thinks this is going to be a cakewalk: "She said Duke owned the house and had protected the unlawful players and looked the other way for years, allowing this to happen." "This"? This WHAT to happen? Somebody needs to tell Tory all she has to stand on is her big mouth. What, if any, were the responses, either from the host or other callers, to her statements?
The people in the Durham area think Duke's image has suffered more than Durham's:
http://triangle.bizjournals.com/triangle/stories/2006/05/29/daily13.html
Are they delusional? Or was their image of Durham very low before this case arose?
Well it would be nice to get her in a deposition. You might be able to catch her in a lie and maybe make her break down mentally. But of course that would put Seligman in one too. While I think he is smart enough to maintain his cool I don't think you want to have under any more cross examinations than you need too.
I think Mr. Evans, Sr. is in a good position to launch the counter-suit. Before I was in Immigration Law, I swam with the sharks in the In-House Law Department of a large oil concern for 20 years. One of the tricks of the trade is to file a lawsuit (the mother of all lawsuits) and just keep it going year after year after year. My son's grandchildren won't see the settlement of some of these suits. It will be hard to remember why the suit was filed in the first place.
It takes very little time to formulate and can keep the AV occupied. The beauty of it is that she won't have the funds to keep it up, unless, of course, the New Black Panthers have the money to throw down a rat hole. No one wins in a situation like this, it's just for the principle. Can't find many principled people anymore. I don't think even Jesse has that kind of gelt. This Gary Willis (is that his name?), now he might want to take it on, but if these young men are found innocent, then I think we can all dig down a wee bit and finance the litigation.
Tom Bevan responds to McCann's article:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/realclearpolitics/20060531/cm_rcp/so_what_if_the_duke_accuser_li
I know the criminal defense attorneys would veto it, but I think civil cases should be started now, and discovery used to force out the communications had between Nifong and the New Black Panthers, and all such communications to outsiders.
The civil case would allow the development of much more information connecting all the bad actors together in this conspiracy of politicians and whores.
As long as he has nothing to hide, and Mangum's stories are so flawed, he has everything to gain and she has everything to lose. She would be forced to counter-sue froma defensive position. The psychological pressure would be tremendous. Most importantly, all her conversations with Nifong would become public as would the details surrounding the medical report and the identifications of the players and who all she had sex with, the nature of her employment, all of it, before there could ever be a criminal trial. There is no attorney-client privilege between Mangum and Nifong because he does not represent her. He represents the people, so his machinations in this case would be revealed. Mangum would place the blame on Nifong as pushing her into going forward with her claim and making the ID's. If Reade filed suit against her, Nifong would be changing his shorts hourly.
DA says more evidence is coming
Calling him a conservative is pretty low blow. Perhaps McCann was trying to regain some "street cred" with his latest commentary.
Suing Mangum now is a good idea because it will create a huge chasm between Mangum and Nifong. Divide and conquer. The pressure on Mangum to rat out Nifong to save her own butt would be tremendous. Even Mangum doesn't want a big judgment hanging around her neck the rest of her life. If that was something that wouldn't faze her, she wouldn't be going to college. She obviously wants something better for herself. A big judgment would ruin her plans for a legitimate career. Judgments can be renewed every ten years and are becoming harder to discharge in bankruptcy. She would be facing wage garnishments, liens, and bank account levies for the rest of her life, unless she chose to remain a hooker until she ruptures herself, dies of a disease or a drug overdose, or is beaten half to death by an unhappy pimp.
Reade Seligmann has a solid alibi and is in a good position to sue her now. The other two innocents would not have to testify due to their Fifth Amendment protection.
As unorthodox such a step would be, this is a unique case and the most forceful offense is called for. The defense should press their advantage in culling Mangum from Nifong and the criminal case.
Divide and conquer.
Oh. My. God.
You're finally right about something.
Halleleujah.
I have been involved in several suits and when we were able to wait out the other side so they filed the first suit, we, as defendants, always waived the jury trial and opted for the Judge. I would hope the LAX players would wait for the AV to sue them (hopefully in Federal Court) and then let a Judge, not jury, decide their fate.
Count me in.
(And I appreciate the candor of your posts)
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