Posted on 05/15/2006 7:14:12 AM PDT by pissant
But many many here on FR seem to believe they are innocent.
But, they are INNOCENT. Until they are proven guilty. And that hasn't happened yet.
Until they are PROVEN BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT TO BE GUILTY...THEY ARE INNOCENT
And so many are tripping and falling over this point and demanding the French Rule of Law: GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN INNOCENT. Wrongo!
I still remember that from reading it in 8th grade.
"As your city manager, I would expect that the buck stops with me," Baker, a lawyer and former assistant city attorney with responsibilities for Police Department issues, told the council. "I'm not asking them to 'get their story straight' at all, but I do think it's my duty to know what's happening at all times. I'm not wanting to be blindsided by anything at all."
The Bowen-Chambers report -- commissioned by Duke President Richard Brodhead -- hit like a small bomb at City Hall last week. It alleged that Durham police had told their counterparts at Duke that the case would blow over because the accuser kept changing her story during the early stages of the investigation on March 14.
The report, alluding to a Duke police document, claimed that the accuser initially told Durham police she'd been raped by about 20 men.
Defense lawyers immediately seized on the Bowen-Chambers report to launch a new round of attacks on the accuser's truthfulness.
But Baker took the document as an attack on the Durham Police Department. The morning after it came out, he contacted officials at Duke to find out what they'd heard from city investigators.
They quickly conceded that the information that formed the basis of the Bowen-Chambers report's claims about Durham police came from a single low-ranking Duke police officer, Christopher Day, who overheard one end of a Durham patrol sergeant's cell-phone conversation.
Baker said the sergeant, John Shelton, was talking with his superiors while police were trying to figure out exactly what they were dealing with. Patrol officers initially believed the woman was intoxicated.
But Durham authorities -- tipped off, Baker said Monday, by medical personnel at Duke University Hospital -- soon decided they were dealing instead with a potential sexual assault, and called in investigators.
"What the Duke Police Department officer overheard was simply one portion of an ongoing conversation [Sgt. Shelton] was having with a watch commander," Baker said, adding that Day would have drawn a different conclusion had he stuck around a while longer. Day instead traveled with two of his colleagues to the scene of the alleged crime, a Duke-owned house at 610 N. Buchanan Blvd., to try to contact its residents.
"All of the evidence in the case makes it clear ... that we took it seriously from the get-go," Baker told the council Monday. "I've spoken with all the officers. Any conclusion or allegation that the Durham Police Department didn't take this seriously is incorrect."
The alleged attack occurred in the early hours of March 14 and had been classified as a sexual assault by Durham Police by 2:50 a.m. Police did not obtain a search warrant for the house where the attack allegedly occurred until 6:55 p.m. on March 16.
Baker did not criticize anyone at Duke other than Officer Day during his comments to the council Monday, despite the concession late last week by Joe Cheshire, a lawyer for newly indicted player David Evans, that Duke administrators had tipped off team members about the allegations before Durham police could secure a search warrant for the house.
The Chambers-Bowen report said Duke's dean of students, Sue Wasiolek, contacted former lacrosse coach Mike Pressler, Athletics Director Joe Alleva and other officials in the school's athletics department immediately after learning of the allegations the morning of March 14. The people she contacted in turn notified the lacrosse players.
http://www.herald-sun.com/durham/4-735122.html
Has anyone done a little background on Chalmers?
I'm too lazy to search FR threads-I'll do some googling and post anything I find.
Thanks for that information, maggief.
Things like the SANE report are what I have a problem with. The mere fact of why it is being done puts a weight to it. The SANE person assumes that the victim is telling the truth and that tips the scale right from the beginning. If Crystal lied about recent sex via a "boyfriend", the SANE report conclusion has no merit to convict.
pertinent to this thread...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1632931/posts
ROFLMAO! I believe, the above femmes, have done a royal job of portraying how zealous they can be. As in, being solidly good prosecutors having NOTHING to do with their own personal agenda.. They've effectively cut their own tongues out throughout this case thus far.
These are not "tough" prosecutors. Modern feminism is based on lies. Ergo, as prosecutors, I'd pray for their clients.
This case is getting stranger and stranger. It reminds me of the Fells Acre/Amirault case in Massachusetts. All the powers rallied around to make sure that the incompetence of the original action and the crass political motives (the DA, Harshbarger, was running for Governor) were hidden from the public. It was akin to the Salem witch trials. Does anyone know whether Dorothy Rabinowitz from the WSJ has commented on this case? She did a great job exposing the incompetence of the Amirault case. Unfortunately it was too late for many of the apparently falsely accused.
She did, IIRC. Many articles in the WSJ. I think most of them were before the days of the internet and online archiving. You may be able to google up some stuff, tho...
This was the best case I could find:
In my own words: Two BROTHERS were at a rape scene. Only one raped the girl. They weren't about to snitch on each other. DNA showed that one brother had 12 markers. The other had 13. The brother with 12 markers was "excluded", i.e., deemed innocent.
The site was very direct in saying that not only that 13 markers are necessary but that less than 13 markers "excludes" a person. This is not horseshoes.
More pertinent stuff...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1632938/posts
Thank YOU for posting this! I found a note late last night that Patrick Baker was being looked into. Good. This needs to be done. Thank you for posting this news.
Ping to #1453: Patrick Baker, City Manager of Durham.
Thank you for the update, maggieF.
Does anyone know whether Dorothy Rabinowitz from the WSJ has commented on this case?
I think I must not have been clear. Has DR commented on the Duke case? I tried Google but found nothing.
After chiding everyone about sources for their statements, it ends up that marajade had no source and was wrong about the 90 percent DNA match.
Forget Chalmers, I might read up on Baker, LOL!
Haven't seen anything by Rabinowitz on the DukeLax case. I think she's semi-retired and doesn't write too much any more...
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