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To: Muleteam1

Having worked in a Top Secret Crypto Navy position, I disagree--with good reason.

And, you are inaccurate in terms of the research about the mental health of experiencers and even abductees. There's evidence of trauma, much as with rape victims etc.--which would be fitting given what they report.

However, actually, as a group--though there's somewhat of a normal distribution, experiencers are actually a bit above the average of the general population in terms of general levels of mental health--with significantly less of them being either not flakey at all or far less flakey than is found on average in the general population.

And, if I recall correctly, also of generally higher levels of IQ. I don't recall HOW significant the statistical differences were, but enough to be called statistically significant. But I need to try and find that research again before stacking a castle too high on it. It's been too long since I read it.

There's certainly no statistically greater degree of hysteria or of schizophrenia in the experiencer population.

The paranoia, or so called, is also not statistically greater depending on the criteria and whether one subtracts out things as intense as rape etc. which the experiencers evidently DO EXPERIENCE. Certainly there are not statistically significantly more paranoid character disorders in the experiencer's population proportionally more than in the general population. Some would say, there's significantly fewer in the experiencer population.

So, your assertions on those 3 points strike out entirely in terms of the solid research evidence measuring such issues.

As to the governmnet's ability to keep things secret--there have been a number of weapons systems and types of spy technologies that the government has kept successfully thoroughly secret for decades. I know that, for a very solid fact. Some have been revealed only in the last 5-10 years but I don't recall their names. Some are still secret.

I don't per se have much faith in the government's abilities in lots of areas. However, compartmentalized groups of overseers with ruthless intent, capacities, technologies and perhaps even demonic motivation and oversight--can do a lot to intimidate, scare and terminate humans sufficiently to effectively keep many things secret AS WELL AS advance their degree of control over populations, countries, intstitutions etc. across the Nation, continent and indeed, the whole planet.

You are welcome to consider my assertions folly, nonsense, illogical, unproven or whatever suits your fancy. Doesn't really bother me. Eventually, the truth of what I've said will be revealed.


67 posted on 05/07/2006 1:46:14 PM PDT by Quix ( PREPARE . . . PRAY . . . PLACE your trust, hope, faith and life in God's hands moment by moment)
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To: Quix
We could argue the correlation of mental health and UFOs all day but having no medical training I would have to rely on someone else's research. However as you may know, trauma is not necessarily proof of an event the sufferer believes caused the injury. Also I have to disbelieve the people who call into the Coast to Coast radio program saying there are "greys" standing beside their bed or giant "greys" who "fill" their bedroom door frame at night. I have to believe these folks are walking on mental health eggshells. Additionally I do believe that many paranoid schizophrenics can have high I.Q.s. I had an aunt who would put tinfoil in her attic to protect her from someone she thought was after her. She was an extremely intelligent woman whose daughter made A's all the way through her primary and secondary education. The one thing all these radio callers, and my aunt, had in common was that their "demons" were seen always at night when the imagination could conceivably overide the reality in a tired mind.

All of what I have said above is anecdotal, but in summary, no one has yet come forth with solid proof of alien existence so I have to compare this belief to the story about the 100-mpg carburetors whose patents have always been bought out by the large oil companies.

Regarding the government keeping secrets, my previous comments were obviously tongue-in-cheek. I am a retired professional from the Federal Government and I can tell you the government, at least where I worked, had assembled some of the most intelligent people of any workplace I have ever worked. Intelligent people can be devious and it seems possible that information could be withheld from the public if some parts of the government saw fit.

All this said, I must ask, are you telling me you believe that extraterrestrials are now visiting earth and that some of these events are real? If this is so, I am sorry but my pragmatic nature in these matters prevents me from joining you in that opinion. I will say that as a Christian I do believe in things which are not proven by science, but in the matters of whether or not extraterrestrials have visited Earth, I remain quite reserved.

Muleteam1

77 posted on 05/07/2006 7:09:27 PM PDT by Muleteam1
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