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2nd Duke party dancer now questions doubts about accuser
Daily Comet & AP ^ | April 21, 2006 | ALLEN G. BREED

Posted on 04/21/2006 12:56:01 AM PDT by OakOak

Edited on 04/21/2006 2:52:00 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: jiggyboy

Send me a ping. I'll be right over!


741 posted on 04/21/2006 11:56:12 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: pepperhead
" The case against the two accused players could fall apart before trial."

If they show the accuser was 100% certain that someone demonstrably innocent was one of her attackers, you can stick a fork in her. She is done. Any further in-court identifications by her would be suppressed as tainted by viewing all the pictures of the Lacrosse team members during the prior lineup. The judge would have no choice but to throw out subsequent in-court identifications. The only possible way the prosecution could salvage the case after that would be a DNA match.

Even a DNA match might not salvage it if the jury does not believe the accuser when she says it was rape. The defendants could still get up and argue it was consensual or sex for pay.
742 posted on 04/21/2006 11:56:26 AM PDT by Law is not justice but process
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To: bonfire

Where HAVE you been? We've been missing you!


743 posted on 04/21/2006 11:56:55 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: PleaseNoMore

Bless you for "translating" that!


744 posted on 04/21/2006 11:57:47 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Perdogg

Boy Howlin-you called that one correctly.


745 posted on 04/21/2006 11:58:12 AM PDT by sissyjane (Don't be stuck on stupid!)
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To: NeonKnight

Humiliation has a cost don't you know. ;)


746 posted on 04/21/2006 11:58:44 AM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: Shelayne
Wish someone would post a picture of her hair before the alleged rape and after the alleged rape.

And you're right, if you're bombed....you just take off both shoes (according to my best recollection of that evening long, long ago).

747 posted on 04/21/2006 11:59:00 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Howlin

http://www.wral.com/index.html

On the right


748 posted on 04/21/2006 11:59:04 AM PDT by GAgal
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To: panthermom

I have wondered why there are so many pictures....

Not just of the short show, mind you--but pictures of her leaving, of her being put in the car. Perhaps some of those pictures were taken because one of the 2 made a threat.

The defense has put alot out there. Stategery?
Maybe there is more they have not put out. If there is a video-maybe, just maybe it has something on it that exposes the strippers.

Drip, Drip, Drip and when the time is right, the damn breaks.


749 posted on 04/21/2006 11:59:57 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights (GOP, The Other France)
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To: Law is not justice but process
The defendants could still get up and argue it was consensual or sex for pay.

Why would these boys want to do that. They have steadfastly maintained NOTHING sexual happened between any of them and this woman. Changing thei stories to consensual sex would doom them.

750 posted on 04/21/2006 11:59:57 AM PDT by PleaseNoMore
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To: Jay Gould
Just what they have gotten so far. Humiliation but nothing else.

Wrong.

Do you think Jesse Jackson is going to pay their tuition this semester? their lawyer bills? And what about their reputations?

751 posted on 04/21/2006 11:59:57 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: Howlin

Shep babbling something about a secret witness. The jerdge will be on to discuss...


752 posted on 04/21/2006 12:00:12 PM PDT by abb (Because News Reporting is too important to be left to the Journalists.)
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To: Howlin

You're welcome :O)


753 posted on 04/21/2006 12:00:37 PM PDT by PleaseNoMore
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To: Howlin


>>BTW, Michael Cardoza is on Fox right now, saying that for all intents and purposes, Kim Roberts is done as a witness for the prosecution because from today forward everybody will be saying "Is she saying that to enhance her payday."


Works for me. :-)<<

Works for me too, but I never thought I'd see the day when I agreed with Michael Cardoza. He used to make me so mad during the Peterson trial.



754 posted on 04/21/2006 12:01:11 PM PDT by sissyjane (Don't be stuck on stupid!)
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To: Howlin

Lots of family stuff going on. Death, illness, surgeries, college. etc. etc. Been trying to catch up on all the news!


755 posted on 04/21/2006 12:01:12 PM PDT by bonfire
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To: Law is not justice but process
The defendants could still get up and argue it was consensual or sex for pay.

Or even using the same bathroom. She admits to being in the b.r. with Kim as a 2nd witness to that. In the very same b.r. where 40 players are milling about and drinking beer. (Gotta go). I'd say the odds of finding some lacrosse DNA on the ole' toilet seat is 100%.

756 posted on 04/21/2006 12:01:57 PM PDT by Swanks
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

>>Me too! Me too!

2000 rocks, LOL!<,

Woo--Hoo!!



757 posted on 04/21/2006 12:03:01 PM PDT by sissyjane (Don't be stuck on stupid!)
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To: Law is not justice but process
Even a DNA match might not salvage it if the jury does not believe the accuser when she says it was rape. The defendants could still get up and argue it was consensual or sex for pay.

There is no possible way that after denying passionately for over a month that they even touched her that they could turn around and say they had consensual sex with her and be believed. If they had sex with her, they would have said so by now and put up a consensual sex defense, given her limited at best creditability they would have a good shot at the jury believing them.

758 posted on 04/21/2006 12:03:07 PM PDT by LWalk18
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To: Neverforget01
Look for a May 1 surprise from the D.A..

Of course the indictment of the third guy. Maybe this time they'll indict someone who was actually at the party.
Nifong is knee deep in the big muddy, like the song says: "and the big fool says press on."
759 posted on 04/21/2006 12:04:23 PM PDT by don'tbedenied ( D)
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To: GallopingGhost

I hope you're being facetious.
I don't think anyone who did not make the slur should be humiliated.
That's why I'm curious to know IF it happened and, if so, who made it.
There has been no response on this from anyone on the team or they're lawyers.
You would think, that with this being a racially charge incident, someone would say.
"My client made no racial slurs" or "My client heard no racial slurs"
No one is responding to this at all.


760 posted on 04/21/2006 12:04:54 PM PDT by Jay Gould
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