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To: Peach

I'm on the players' side here as far as the rape charges. However, they displayed very poor judgment for Duke college guys. Hope they can get some of their tuition back because they obviously haven't learned much at Duke.

But I am at a loss for how people can defend underage guys drinking and hiring strippers. It's sad that our culture has sunk so low.


540 posted on 04/20/2006 10:55:30 AM PDT by mlc9852
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To: mlc9852

But I am at a loss for how people can defend underage guys drinking and hiring strippers. It's sad that our culture has sunk so low.



I don't think anyone here is defending these boys actions...just acknowledging that these things happen at college campuses all across the US.....no mother in her right mind would condone it...


548 posted on 04/20/2006 10:59:15 AM PDT by mystery-ak (Army Wife and Army Mother.....toughest job in the military)
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To: mlc9852

I think our culture has sunk quite low, but for reasons far beyond this.

My parent's generation (and they are in their 70's) and their parent's generation before them hired strippers and went to strip clubs. Look at one of the first things guys in WWII did when they got leave -- went to strip clubs. You can't live in a bubble.


563 posted on 04/20/2006 11:04:06 AM PDT by Peach
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To: mlc9852
I do not think that people on this thread are applauding these young men for drinking underage and hiring a stripper.

What people on this thread are outraged by is powerful people and interest groups (Nifong, Jesse Jackson, the Duke professoriate, the MSM ....) trampling on their constitutional rights and presuming them guilty until proven innocent.

If you have followed these threads, you will see the main focus is the conduct of the DA with the touting and then disavowing of the DNA tests, the illegal photo identification and the unwillingness to meet with defense counsel regarding exculpatory evidence before indictment.

You will see the focus on the rush to judgment by the Duke professoriate and the "Take Back the Night" crowd which has condemned the players without a full airing of evidence.

You will see the focus on the rush to judgment by the talk-TV nags like Nancy Grace, Wendy Murphy, Catherine Crier, Rita Cosby .... Many of whom who know better but are so driven by their self-agendas to rationally view the evidence.

573 posted on 04/20/2006 11:08:34 AM PDT by writmeister
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