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C.S.A. - Anyone Seen This Movie? (Vanity)
CSA - The Movie ^

Posted on 04/01/2006 2:45:57 PM PST by YourAdHere

Any freepers seen this movie, or even heard of it? It's playing in very limited run, mostly arthouse type theatres.

The premise of the movie is quite good. It's a documentary of American history over the last 150 years. The twist is that it takes place in an alternate reality where the South won the Civil War. We see all the relevant events of the 20th century, but with a southern slant. And the documentary is sprinkled with commercials for products like the "Shackle" to keep your property in line, and the television sit-com "Leave it to Beulah."

Now, I saw it at an arthouse in Bethesda, Maryland, but you wouldn't know it was playing there from the marquee. They don't have any posters for it outside. It's even worse inside the building, as they did not put a poster up outside the auditorium it was showing in.

If you look at the poster, you'll understand why. It's a shot of Neal Armstrong walking on the moon, but instead of the American flag, he's planting a postage-stamp-sized version of the confederate flag. So in a bout of political correctness, the theatre opted not to display their own movie.

If you like alternate reality stories, this is a pretty good movie. They create archival footage of Lincoln before his death in 1905 after escaping to Canada via Harriet Tubman's underground railroad.

The movie's social value is that it redefines the fact that it was republicans who were in favor of abolition, and it tries to show how the democrats never did a thing to help the slaves.


TOPICS: TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: america; confederate; states
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1 posted on 04/01/2006 2:45:59 PM PST by YourAdHere
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I saw something similar on the old sci fi series "Sliders" where they visited a still British modern America where possession of a copy of the constitution was a death penalty offense.

Personally I don't know how much socially redeeming value there would be in such a movie. Nobody can really predict the woulda couldas very well. Slavery was going to fail in the south within a decade or two anyway.

Might be something interesting to see just for ponderin.
3 posted on 04/01/2006 2:52:45 PM PST by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: YourAdHere

Sounds mildly entertaining. If it's ever released on DVD I'll rent it.


4 posted on 04/01/2006 2:53:57 PM PST by birbear (You know what? This is crap. We're going to stop this.)
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To: cripplecreek

I remember that episode. Back in the good old days before they killed off Arturo. "Sliders" had such great potential.


5 posted on 04/01/2006 2:54:34 PM PST by YourAdHere (Bradypalooza. Available at Amazon.Com)
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http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0389828/


6 posted on 04/01/2006 2:56:12 PM PST by rellimpank (Don't believe anything about firearms or explosives stated by the mass media---NRABenefactor)
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"Sliders" had such great potential."

Yeah, then Jerry What's-his-name brought his brother on board and it went downhill with each episode.


8 posted on 04/01/2006 3:06:49 PM PST by toddlintown (Lennon takes six bullets to the chest, Yoko is standing right next to him and not one f'ing bullet?)
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You know I just realized that the confederate flag shown throughout the movie only has 13 stars. If the south had won the civil war, why didn't the flag in the movie have all 50?

I love being a nitpicker.

9 posted on 04/01/2006 3:07:08 PM PST by YourAdHere (Bradypalooza. Available at Amazon.Com)
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To: toddlintown

Ugh! That O'Connell who was "The Bachelor." Boy, his career took a real "slide."


10 posted on 04/01/2006 3:09:58 PM PST by YourAdHere (Bradypalooza. Available at Amazon.Com)
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To: YourAdHere
If the south had won the civil war, why didn't the flag in the movie have all 50?

The south could have taken an insular turn and the north might have taken a more expansionist role and taken over Canada. Like I say, no real value but fun for ponderin.
11 posted on 04/01/2006 3:11:04 PM PST by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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If you go to the website you linked, the flash shows blue states overtaken by red all over. It's allegory for what would happen if those evil republicans had "what they really want". Considering it's a Spike Llee film, you can be certain it's racist...against anything white anyway.


12 posted on 04/01/2006 3:44:08 PM PST by Malsua
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Yeah, they did that in the movie too. It's funny because this movie isn't embraced by anyone. On the one hand, it can be seen as an attack against the red states. On the other hand, blue states don't want to have anything to do with this movie, as evidenced by the lack of publicity for it. If you put all politics aside, it can be a dramatic, sci-fi-ish comedy documentary. I would think that after Farenheit 9/11, the public would embrace more fake documentaries. : )


13 posted on 04/01/2006 4:24:12 PM PST by YourAdHere (Bradypalooza. Available at Amazon.Com)
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"within a generation or so..."

A generation or so is a long time to wait...when you're a slave.


14 posted on 04/01/2006 4:50:59 PM PST by Brandi in AZ
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To: YourAdHere

It isn't based on the novels by Harry Turtledove, is it? He did a whole series...the Civil War not ending the bloodshed on American soil but leading to war after war as in Europe. There was one where an embittered Confederate soldier becomes an American Hitler.

Mrs VS


15 posted on 04/01/2006 6:09:16 PM PST by VeritatisSplendor
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I'm just finishing up re-reading the first Turtledove alternate history take on the Civil War, The Guns of The South, where die hard Apartheid proponents from South Africa in 2014 manage to get a time machine that brings them back to just before the Battle Of The Wilderness.  By providing Rober E. Lee with AK47s they manage to tip the war in the Confederate's favor.

It's a rather drastic left turn to get to where he did, which is Lee succeeding Jefferson Davis in an independent CSA after defeating Nathan Bedford Forest in the presidential election.  Lee (who really had freed all of his slaves before the war) had decided that the South couldn't wait for a violent end to slavery, which he concluded was inevitable, and was set on a gradual elemination (with compensation) over a couple of decades.  That led to a break with the men from the future and a violent conclusion.

It was interesting enough and well researched enough that Shelby Foote, the late Civil War historian, wrote the forward for it.  The idea itself was worth another look, with a less drastic left turn this time.  That would be the series you are referring to.  In that set of books he used a simple change in history, a set of plans lost by a Confederate general which in reality fell into the hands of the Union, is instead retrieved by a rebel soldier.  He takes off from that change and imagines a whole series of stories all the way up at least through mid 20th century, with North and South competing at everything, such as who will reach the Pacific with a railroad first.  Interesting premise, but not as satisfying a conclusion as the single volume of Guns of The South.

16 posted on 04/01/2006 6:24:17 PM PST by Phsstpok (There are lies, damned lies, statistics and presentation graphics, in descending order of truth)
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To: TonyRo76

WBTS. I'm gonna adopt that acronym.


18 posted on 04/02/2006 4:31:18 PM PDT by YourAdHere (Bradypalooza. Available at Amazon.Com)
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To: VeritatisSplendor

Nah, not based on Turtledove. I can see why you'd say that though. That's a series I've been meaning to read myself.


19 posted on 04/02/2006 4:32:26 PM PDT by YourAdHere (Bradypalooza. Available at Amazon.Com)
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To: YourAdHere
There is also a book called "Fatherland" that depicts a Germany that sued for piece during WWII and was left largely in tact under a somewhat "National Socialist" type government.

A friend had been reading it years ago when I saw the book but I never got around to it myself. He said it was fascinating and well written, BTW. I think the plot took place during the early 60's IIRC.
20 posted on 04/03/2006 8:33:04 AM PDT by headstamp (Nothing lasts forever, Unless it does.)
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