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I have no problem with open source as a component.

You've repeatedly stated your objection to open source software on principle as anti-capitalist, communist and China-helping. Actually, that comprises a large portion of your posts.

I have problems with open source when it is pushed as the only alternative, as is being done by those behind the GPL movement, as you know. They see no co-existence with proprietary software. You typically defend them,

The "no co-existence" statement leads me to think you are here defining "GPL movement" as those following Stallman's ideology. I have never supported Stallman's utopian vision, nor can I remember any FReeper who has. In fact, most Linux advocates here look down upon Stallman's ideological approach to software as much as they look down upon yours.

They are ultimately NOT an "open" company as you are trying to portray them

Looking back, you'll see my point was that open source has helped Apple make money, not whether Apple was an "open" company. You really love strawmen, don't you?

You're the one running around the discussion. All open source isn't evil, that's the stigma you guys have tried to stick on me forever. Nor do I only like Microsoft products, another one of your pigeonhole attempts that failed.

While I prefer if products are completely proprietary, obviously what actually matters the most is whether they are ultimately proprietary or not. Completely Free software, given to the ChiComms to legally duplicate infinitely, is insanity, and that is what I speak out against. Apple has nothing to do with anything like that, and actually can't even get their products to market over there because the of the flood of free software.

Free software is ok, in limited quantities, but not when they try to take over the market, as the creators of their licenses absolutely intend for them to do. That is the issue, and actually a quite reasonable position for me to take, but the rancorous free software freaks can't accept it, and shout names at me and other juvenile nonsense instead, LOL. It's really quite entertaining watching the meltdowns on here, I can do it right on cue with a few of you guys, poor little things don't even realize it.