They each take up about 2' square. The stalks start falling over (of course it could be the wind here) and then dry and brown. And they are as big around as your thumb at least. Last year I planted a Rose of Sharon - hibiscus which I like much better. They are much neater and have some pretty colors.
Well, I'm going to have to give it some thought now. I've got about 20 seedlings growing, LOL, I may land up putting them out along the side of the shop.
Becky