Posted on 02/06/2006 8:32:23 AM PST by serendepitylives
Steelers ticker-tape parade Tuesday BREAKING NEWS
By The Tribune-Review Monday, February 6, 2006
Pittsburgh will throw a ticker-tape parade Tuesday morning to celebrate the Steelers' first Super Bowl victory in 26 years. The parade of Steelers players and high school marching bands will set out from Mellon Arena at 11 a.m. and proceed down Centre Avenue. The marchers will turn left on Sixth Avenue, go right on Fifth Avenue, turn left on Liberty Avenue and stop near the Pittsburgh Hilton Hotel near Gateway Center, Downtown, said Public Works Director Guy Costa.
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He'ppa youse'f!
I'll try again. I was addressing your post that said the NFL came out the next day and said it was a bad call. So, do you think that if the Colts had won that game, the NFL would have come out the next day and said that call was a mistake?
You can go on all you want about the other calls or non calls in the SB, but that wasn't what I had asked you.
ps Speaking of time management, you might consider finding a place to live that is closer to work or visa versa.
There wasn't any link posted to the poll. The results were just posted in another article. I didn't here anyone talk about Freeping the poll. The Steeler fans just can't face the truth.
To be fair, I'm not a big Cowboy fan either, even though I'm a native Texan.
However, in the time of Staubach and Landry, they were THE best!
Except in Super Bowls X and XIII ...they were runner ups ;P !!!
I am happy you have such faith in online polls. ;-)
Eh... on-line polls are not worth much, but then this is only a football game. It's just a shame that it was lowered to the class of the WWF.
Sounds like the seattle players are complaining today, but it still would not have affected the outcome of the game. Seattle had the ball longer than the Steelers and were unable to turn over points...or even field goals without weather conditions. And had the colts won, of course the league would not have come out and said the call was a mistake. What are you getting at?
Hmmmm... You'd better get the sound checked on your set.
Immediately after the tackling below the waist penalty (on the interception thrown two plays after the bogus holding call), John Madden mentioned that the area between the forties - right where the penalty put the Steelers - was Cower's favorite spot for "gadget plays". Just like the beautifully executed throw by Randel El.
I'm not taking away from that play's execution, just noting that the refs made it possible.
Why not? By creating a fake "controversy", they get people to watch their shows. The longer they can milk this, from their standpoint, the better.
Being that the NFL came back and said that it was a bad call, what's your logic?
But then you admit to this:
And had the colts won, of course the league would not have come out and said the call was a mistake. What are you getting at?
And as a Pittsburgh fan, you would have been just fine with that? Of course you wouldn't have been. Yet, you expect Seattle fans to suck it up and quit complaining about the bad calls that went against them.
By your own admission, the league isn't interested in publicly admitting to these things and showing fairness if the team affected ends up losing the game. We can only expect an admission from the NFL if the team the calls went against actually wins the game in the end.
In other words, your argument that the NFL made that statement in the Colts/Pittsburgh game means absolutely nothing when it comes to fans/players having legitimate complaints about the officiating. Just as their silence in the Pittsburgh/Seattle game doesn't necessarily minimize the legitimacy of Seattle's complaints.
I'm not the slightest bit concerned about your sportsmanship. I just find it comical that you're the one who started that topic and how it should apply to everyone else, and then shortly followed it by calling someone else a "sore loser" and that their team "choked". I find it funny, that's all.
"I just find it comical that you're the one who started that topic and how it should apply to everyone else, and then shortly followed it by calling someone else a "sore loser" and that their team "choked". "
Go ahead, laugh away and keep ignoring the facts. Someone calls me a cheater, says I don't care about an honest game, I respond and I'm called the poor sport. That is pretty funny-you Seattle fans have some pretty fuzzy ideas about fairness-if a call goes against your team, that means the officiating sucks and the refs threw the game.
I'm laughing too, in a good mood this morning, getting ready for the victory parade.
You give a lot of thought to this. I agreed that had the Colts won we would be complaining. So I dont' know what else I can do. Regarding the Colts game, can YOU admit that the calls were bad and slanted toward the Colts? Regarding the SB - the touchdown was reviewed in the booth. Holmgren had 3 calls reviewed in the booth. Not all the calls went the Steelers way, but if you choose to believe that, go ahead. As you say, just because we won, does that mean that the Steelers fans have no legitimate complaints regarding the fumbles and personal fouls on behalf of the seahawk players?
Like the Colts/Steelers game, some calls went both ways during the SB, but it appears to me, and many (most?) others, the more controversial ones went against Seattle, thus the complaints about the officiating. You apparently think the officiating was fine, or at least fair/equally bad, so others have no basis in their complaints. We'll just have to agree to disagree on that.
BTW, again, I'm not trying to take anything away from the Steelers as a team. It's the officiating I have a problem with, including the bad call against TP in the colts' game, as an example.
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/02/07/SPG9IH42C91.DTL&hw=rratto&sn=001&sc=1000
Officials cost Seattle the game? Whatever
Ray Ratto
Tuesday, February 7, 2006
NFL
So the Seahawks got jobbed, did they? Cheated by the evil Zebras of Death, was it? Denied their destiny by seven men in ghastly shirts and knickers, you think?
OK, fine. I mean, you're wrong, but don't let that get in the way of your good time.
First, a quick review: The pass-interference call on Darrell Jackson that nullified Seattle's first score was borderline -- a little chintzy, but hardly without supporting evidence. The Ben Roethlisberger touchdown was just a difficult call, is all. It looked, according to the best angle offered the television audience, as if the ball might have dented the plane of the goal line, but it didn't help that the head linesman raised one hand in the air to kill the play before converting into two hands and a touchdown. And the holding call on Sean Locklear in the fourth quarter ... well, John Madden didn't like it much, and he's a Hall of Famer, so we'll give you that one.
That all three calls went against the Seahawks kind of stinks for them. It certainly made Mike Holmgren look a little more like Doctor Zoidberg, the mutant lobster/scientist from "Futurama," than he already does, but it isn't the same as proof that the Seahawks would have won the game otherwise.
But as we said, you've got your theory, and you should go with it. You certainly shouldn't feel any urge to send an e-mail to anyone who doesn't buy your premise, because the chances are it'll be ruthlessly deleted. I mean, customer service is fine in theory and all, yet ...
No, let's stop right there. What we have heard, above and beyond the "The stripes were on the take" argument, is that the NFL should have full-time officials so that things like this won't happen again. This is, of course, idiocy of the first magnitude, but let us explain.
Seven full-time officials have the same problem as seven part-time officials. The game is too big and fast and violent and rules-engorged for seven people of any stripe, and an entire year of devoted study in the Johnny Blood McNally Sorbonne isn't going to make the Roethlisberger call any easier, or the Jackson call any less dicey.
You want a goal-line call that never fails? Put a microchip in the ball and run some Vulcan mind-meld machine up and down the plane of the goal line. You want perfect pass-interference judgments? Simplify the rules. You want consistent holding? Robots. You want all penalties to be accurately detected and adjudicated? Put another 15 stripes on the field -- one per potential miscreant.
But you don't want that, and I know this, because I can see into your souls (and maybe running the vacuum to catch the chip crumbs now and then wouldn't be a bad idea). And I know what you want is to squawk about the officials when something doesn't go your way.
You like conspiracies, the unseen hand taking money out of your wallet, turning a push that would keep your kids from having to sell their braces at school for lunch money into a straight loss and your kid lisping like Sylvester the Cat.
It would be different if what you wanted actually would make officiating better, but full-time changes nothing. Baseball's umpires are essentially full time, and does anyone want to review the 2005 postseason for us? Besides, the Doug Eddings/Josh Paul/A.J. Pierzynski foul-tip call was proven through science a couple of months later to have been actually correct. The NBA and the college game got better officiating with two-man crews than they get now with three-man crews (go call Rick Barry and bother him if you want confirmation of that little truth). The NHL has two referees now to go with two linesmen, and they are respected as much as ever -- and we'll save you the snotty metaphor for a change.
And besides, if you think Bill Leavy, the Super Bowl referee, was in the bag, wouldn't he be living somewhere other than San Jose? Like, say, the Caymans?
But there we go, descending into logic again when all you want to do is vent. Well, then, vent away. The NFL is scamming you all, if that's what helps you sleep at night. The league isn't making enough dough as it is (the NFL paid the Rolling Stones only $5 million for three songs, after all), so the suits have to cheese up the games. The league honchos want crooked officials, because they're all in on it, and losing their integrity to a betting scandal is exactly the solution.
Yes, the NFL could add a few extra pairs of eyes, and the league could simplify the rule book by a couple of rural phonebooks or so, and the league could throw in a little extra technology, but I suspect that with all those advantages, the final score would have been Pittsburgh 27, Seattle 14.
Better you should vent at the atrocious Seahawk clock management, and the bad coverage that allowed the Steelers to convert a 3rd-and-28, and blah blah blah-de-blah. The Steelers won because, as poorly as they played, they still managed to play better than the Seahawks did.
OK, except maybe Ben Roethlisberger.
But no, you vent anyway. It makes the day go faster, and it isn't like work is going to be all that fulfilling today. You'll have to go to a meeting, or one of your co-workers is going to call in sick, or you're going to have to hand a C-note to your pal at the tavern because you took the four. Yeah, it's Bill Leavy's fault. If it works for you, we're down with it. It's the Super Bowl, and everyone should get what he or she wants.
BTW, I've never said there was a conspiracy, that would be your own Joey Porter after the Colts' game. But since a Steeler said it, it's okay, right?
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