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To: scripter
Brokeback Mountain': Rape of the Marlboro Man

Anyone who has debated me over the years on FR on gay issues knows I tend to take a somewhat libertarian approach to such.

However, I've friggin' had enough. If you want to do the rump jump in the privacy of your own home between consenting adults, that's your business. But if you want to ram the damn gay agenda down our throats everywhere I turn, you have lost any political support I might have once considered giving your cause.

154 posted on 12/30/2005 7:01:31 PM PST by dirtboy (Drool overflowed my buffer...)
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To: dirtboy
Anyone who has debated me over the years on FR on gay issues knows I tend to take a somewhat libertarian approach to such.

As do I, just not to the same extent.

But if you want to ram the damn gay agenda down our throats everywhere I turn, you have lost any political support I might have once considered giving your cause.

Hear hear.

I've heard more of the same from other folks, so it appears the agenda has been pushed past the comfort zone (for lack of a better term) for many folks who were closer to the libertarian side of the fence.

158 posted on 12/30/2005 7:25:08 PM PST by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: dirtboy
Anyone who has debated me over the years on FR on gay issues knows I tend to take a somewhat libertarian approach to such. However, I've friggin' had enough. If you want to do the rump jump in the privacy of your own home between consenting adults, that's your business. But if you want to ram the damn gay agenda down our throats everywhere I turn, you have lost any political support I might have once considered giving your cause.

Your comment illuminates the core weakness of libertarianism.

In the past, this kind of trash was kept in check by a shared sense disgust and disapproval regardless of whether ir appeared in a private forum or public forum. Beginning in the 1960s libertarian attitudes corroded this sense of disgust and disapproval until no effective restraint remained.

Libertarians love to preach that perversions between consenting adults in private are no one's business but the persons involved, that a tolerable and decent society is built on such tolerance. But perversions don't play by the rules and will not stay "in the closet" but will frolic freely in public at first opportunity.

164 posted on 12/31/2005 1:21:09 PM PST by JCEccles
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