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'Brokeback Mountain': Rape of the Marlboro Man
WorldNetDaily ^ | December 27, 2005 | David Kupelian

Posted on 12/27/2005 8:54:11 AM PST by scripter

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To: hunter112
Anyone comforting themselves with this statistic is going to be sorely disappointed when this film hits all national markets. (snip) You will find a LOT of people being drawn in by the reviews, and this movie will deliberately attract leftwing dollars, the way that Passion of the Christ attracted fundamentalist Christian dollars. (snip) Be prepared to be disturbed, if this kind of movie disturbs you.

That the movie exists doesn't disturb me. (Seeing it might.)

You may be right to be confident of its success -- I'm sure the acting is accomplished, the preview I saw suggests a beautifully shot movie, it may very well bust blocks everywhere and we know the shiny awards are lined up. But I don't think the Passion comparison holds up. Roughly two-thirds of the U.S. population is Christian while homosexuals comprise no more than 7% if one is feeling generous, the estimates are dodgy and range as few as 1%. Minus the lesbians to whom the movie may not appeal and you've got an even smaller certain audience from which to create buzz. And even under pressure of political correctness, I can't fathom droves of liberal men ponying-up to this movie.

We shall see, eh? But please don't deny me a little schadenfreude fun should it flop!

161 posted on 12/31/2005 12:05:03 PM PST by fullchroma
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To: Ma3lst0rm

Maybe it's success will an inverse porportion to that of the Passion?


162 posted on 12/31/2005 12:13:07 PM PST by fullchroma
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To: scripter
You know, reading this article reminded me of something I read in a psychology article. The parallel between the manipulation ( as the WND artile above describes it ) and what I excerpt below is eerily similar. In fact, it is sickening:

"...The child-molester exhibits a positive emotional investment in the child whom he eroticizes. He seeks to establish an on-going relationship with the child that includes but extends beyond sexual activity. Having first established a non-sexual relationship and position of familiarity with the child he gradually indoctrinates the child into sexual activities that become more advanced over time. He behaves in counter-aggressive ways, however, and should the child refuse or resist his sexual advances, the child molester may increase his efforts at enticement and manipulation but will not resort to physical force. If the child actively and persistently resists the child molester will ultimately turn to another, more accommodating victim. The risk to the victim of the child- molester, then, is not one of physical injury, but one of psychological harm. "
This section was quoted from this clinical tract: Clinical Observations of Child Molesters

Further reference:
THE PSYCHOLOGY OF SEXUAL PREDATION & PEDOPHILIA

Sickness tries to go mainstream. And to imagine "Bareback Mountain" is up for Oscars. Says a lot about Hollywood, doesn't it? And one wonders why receipts are dropping.

163 posted on 12/31/2005 12:56:38 PM PST by Tench_Coxe
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To: dirtboy
Anyone who has debated me over the years on FR on gay issues knows I tend to take a somewhat libertarian approach to such. However, I've friggin' had enough. If you want to do the rump jump in the privacy of your own home between consenting adults, that's your business. But if you want to ram the damn gay agenda down our throats everywhere I turn, you have lost any political support I might have once considered giving your cause.

Your comment illuminates the core weakness of libertarianism.

In the past, this kind of trash was kept in check by a shared sense disgust and disapproval regardless of whether ir appeared in a private forum or public forum. Beginning in the 1960s libertarian attitudes corroded this sense of disgust and disapproval until no effective restraint remained.

Libertarians love to preach that perversions between consenting adults in private are no one's business but the persons involved, that a tolerable and decent society is built on such tolerance. But perversions don't play by the rules and will not stay "in the closet" but will frolic freely in public at first opportunity.

164 posted on 12/31/2005 1:21:09 PM PST by JCEccles
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To: lastfreeamerican

HI there - do you happen to have an online link where that Bush quote can be found? I think it would be the perfect rebuttal to an activist snot posting on blog I read who cant seem to get the concept of that...


165 posted on 12/31/2005 1:31:07 PM PST by Alkhin (He thinks I need keeping in order - Peregrin Took, FOTR)
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To: Names Ash Housewares
"Why hell, they aint no cowboys, they're just a couple of fruity sheepherders!"

LOL!

That is the best post on the board, bro...

166 posted on 01/02/2006 9:36:00 AM PST by maxwell (Well I'm sure I'd feel much worse if I weren't under such heavy sedation...)
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To: maxwell

I heard that even the acting isn't all that great. The only rave is coming from pro-gay sources.


167 posted on 01/02/2006 9:37:43 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: xzins
I heard that even the acting isn't all that great. The only rave is coming from pro-gay sources.

Well it's got pretty-boy Heath Ledger in it, so even objectively, how could it be a serious cinematic effort...

The Duke is rolling in his grave, G-d rest his soul. The dudes are moving in on the genre.

168 posted on 01/02/2006 9:45:57 AM PST by maxwell (Well I'm sure I'd feel much worse if I weren't under such heavy sedation...)
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To: maxwell; scripter

Storyline that I heard: 2 guys hump in a tent in a sheep pasture and make moon eyes at each other behind their wives' backs.

Absolutely flippin' amazing that that would inspire anyone to go see it.

(Maybe they could action it up a bit by having the tent get attacked by gay Al-Qaeda terrorists. :>)


169 posted on 01/02/2006 10:12:16 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: xzins
Absolutely flippin' amazing that that would inspire anyone to go see it.

Well like somebody said above, the box office #s demonstrate that it is preaching to the choir.

That is fine with me. I hate going to the theater because 1) it costs too much; 2) there is always either some disruptive kid or you end up sitting behind a freakishly tall person; and 3) you can't smoke. I am waiting for Deuce Bigalow European Gigalo to come out on cable. (Yeah, I am one of Those People Who Think Deuce Bigalow Is Funny...)

170 posted on 01/02/2006 10:19:25 AM PST by maxwell (Well I'm sure I'd feel much worse if I weren't under such heavy sedation...)
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To: scripter

OH, WOW! I can'wait to run and and see "Brokebutt Mountain"


171 posted on 01/02/2006 10:19:36 AM PST by Buffettfan
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To: KingofZion
There are plenty of other more deserving flicks, like watching the Israelis hunt down the Munich killers...

You might want to rethink that -- everything I have read says it sympathetic to the terrorists.

172 posted on 01/02/2006 10:23:34 AM PST by freedumb2003 (American troops cannot be defeated. American Politicians can.)
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To: MadManDan

Walk the Line will win many awards. Joaquin and Reese will both win. I'll make bets on that now.


173 posted on 01/02/2006 10:24:45 AM PST by Hildy (Spielberg spends his spare time memorializing the last Holocaust while working to justify the next.)
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To: ABN 505
Yes you are correct, any westerns done from the 60's on, the heros are feminized sissies who would rather talk their way out of a situation then shoot their way out.

Way off base. A short list as example: The Shootist (76)
Rooster Cogburn (75)
Cahill, US Marshall (73)
Train Robbers (73)
Cowboys (72)
Big Jake (72)
Rio Lobo (71)
Chisum (70)
The Undefeated (69)
True Grit (69)
War Wagon (67)
El Dorado (66)
Sons of Katey Elder (65)
McClintock (66)
and more

Of course, these are all 'Duke' film, so no sissy stuff to be had, no homo agenda, and they all made money.

174 posted on 01/02/2006 10:56:35 AM PST by 11Bush
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To: Ashamed Canadian
Eastwood made some great westerns, no doubt. The 'Duke' is still the king in my opinion. I will watch just about any movie tha includes John Wayne ( with the exception of, maybe,McQ and The Conquerer). If it has Maureen O'Hara it is a must watch.
175 posted on 01/02/2006 11:06:18 AM PST by 11Bush
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To: DustyMoment
The fact that leftists in Portland and Canada had their minds changed about homosexuals is not a persuasive argument.

I understand the author's thesis and basically agree with it, but I am skeptical that watching this movie will change many minds. Most of the people who would watch it are already pretty much on board. You have to be able to accept a movie's premise to begin with, to involve yourself in its process.

The comparison to the Marlboro Man is illustrative but inept. First, there was little or no stigma attached to smoking when the MM was devised. Probably a majority of adults smoked already. Second, cigaratte companies vied for new smokers and stealing market share from other smokers. They didn't have to sell smoking per se. The MM marketing campaign took years, with millions of repetitions of the image, and with gradual increments of market share over many years.

176 posted on 01/02/2006 11:33:41 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: DustyMoment
The fact that leftists in Portland and Canada had their minds changed about homosexuals is not a persuasive argument.

I understand the author's thesis and basically agree with it, but I am skeptical that watching this movie will change many minds. Most of the people who would watch it are already pretty much on board. You have to be able to accept a movie's premise to begin with, to involve yourself in its process.

The comparison to the Marlboro Man is illustrative but inept. First, there was little or no stigma attached to smoking when the MM was devised. Probably a majority of adults smoked already. Second, cigaratte companies vied for new smokers and stealing market share from other smokers. They didn't have to sell smoking per se. The MM marketing campaugn took years, with millions of repetitions of the image, and with gradual increments of market share over many years.

177 posted on 01/02/2006 11:34:07 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: scripter
So please, you moviemakers, how about easing off that tight camera shot of Ennis's suffering and doing a slow pan over the massive wreckage all around him? What about the years of silent anguish and loneliness Alma stoically endures for the sake of keeping her family together, or the terrible betrayal, suffering and tears of the children, bereft of a father? None of this merits more than a brief acknowledgment in "Brokeback Mountain."

Boycott Hollywood and their filth...

178 posted on 01/02/2006 11:43:15 AM PST by GOPJ (Happy New Year!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
The biggest lie of this movie is that homosexual men are monogamous. In real life, the separated sheepherders would have been cruising public parks for anonymous trysts while pining away for each other.

Another lie is the wives would only be "sad". Most likely, they would suffer from AIDS and other creepy sexually transmitted diseases. Is homosexuality a bigger threat to health than smoking? Or being overweight? Or living in boxes made of ticky tacky?

179 posted on 01/02/2006 11:50:33 AM PST by GOPJ (Is homosexuality a bigger threat to health than smoking? More unhealthy than being overweight?)
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To: Roscoe Karns

ROFL! Do you think some of those DC guys like Harry Reid secretly have a crush on our Cowboy President? Is that why they are so hard on him? Are wussy guys like Chrissy Matthews fantasizing about the Texan, and their feelings of rejection coming out as rage?


180 posted on 01/02/2006 12:10:28 PM PST by Palladin (All the way with Alito!)
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