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Posted on 10/04/2005 9:56:41 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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Good morning.
Looking forward to lots of pictures of the visit:)
Ruthie have a safe trip. When do you arrive in Wash.? What's on the agenda?
It looks to be a nice day here today. I'm planning on riding this afternoon.
Becky
I think she's already in the air...
She arrives here about noon local (I need to get her flight info from Ramius!)
Ramius is picking her up, and I think they're going to go to the beach house to visit the folks for a short bit, and then they'll be here... I hope they get here before dark, but I don't know they will... It's been getting dark around 5 these days, so it depends how long they dally at the beach house.
Oh, well that means a long day of waiting for you, Huh:(!. I hate that. When something exciting is going to happen I want it to be in the morning, I hate sitting around all day waiting:).
Becky
Yeah - long day waiting indeed! I'm not really ready for her to get here yet, still need to finish getting the kitchen cleaned up and need to clean stalls and such, but I figure I'll be ready about noon.
Don't hold me to it, but if I remember correctly, her mother was the same way with her foals. Preach wasn't bottle fed but was raised by a nurse mare herself. I think it has more to do with a temperament issue since she is also difficult to handle in general.
She sure doesn't have any maternal instincts.
HEY! Where'd you get that picture of me when I first get up in the morning?!
I wonder how they get the nurse mares to accept a strange foal. Most mares would bite or kick the daylights out of a strange foal if you tried to make her let it nurse.
This was her first foal and she rejected it. She slammed the poor thing against the wall several times and we rushed in and intervened. The vet was called and said he was coming out, and he said... I'll tell you right now you've got a choice. Put that foal down, or be every bit as hard on that mare as she's being on that foal and hope you can get her over this.
It wasn't pretty, but it wasn't ~all that bad~ either... we just had to halter the mare and hold a big riding whip, and really go after he when she tried to kick the baby. I felt so bad for mom and baby, but after the initial hours, she turned out to be a fine momma.
She was just confused and hurtin' down there, and didn't know what this thing was that was suddenly in the stall with her.
I think the ones they use for nurse mares are just those nice old mares that have had a bunch of their own and will nurse anything.
There are a number of techniques. But, most of these nurse mares have been selected because they have such easy going temperaments and strong maternal instincts, that they easily accept a new foal. One way to do it is to use stocks. Once you take away the mare's own foal, she will get very uncomfortable from the full bags and will want a foal to nurse. So, you put her in the stocks and bring in the foal to nurse. She won't be able to move, kick, or bite. After a day or 2, they usually accept the new foal.
My daughter has a mare that stole her herdmate's foal soon after birth. Twiggy was nursing her foal AND Zena's foal. My daughter had to physically separate the mare/foal pairs until Twiggy gave up trying to steal the other foal. Some mares just have very strong maternal instincts and will take on any foal.
Last year I had 2 mares that I thought were supposed to foal, but one of them apparently aborted or reabsosrbed hers at some point, but when the other mare foaled, the open mare seemed to want to be close to the new baby, almost like she was jealous, and I was afraid she would try to steal it, even though she had no milk. The mother mare was very protective at first, but eventually relaxed and let the other mare get close. The baby seemed to bond with them both and in fact spent most of her "hanging out" time with the mare that wasn't her mother and only went back to her mother to nurse or sleep. I thought it was kinda nice that she had two "mothers", well actually 3 if you count me.
Jake, that is incredible. Mindblowing is the word. It's like "rent a womb." ;) My mare would be SO thankful. I know she does not want to lose her girlish figure. (We've discussed this at length.) At any rate, that really gives me hope because I just have a feeling carring a foal to term would be a lot to ask of this delicate creature. I love the RT. The more I see the more I like. I would LOVE to show you photos of her baby! What a thrill that would be.
By the way I look up Maharadscha. http://www.gestuet-haemelschenburg.de/html/e_mahara.html. What a beauty. What an interesting line! I'm thinking a big black hunter. All I can think of are the words "Amazing Grace".
Maybe if we took a few new human mothers and tried that we wouldn't have so many abused and battered kids. I'm volunteering my whip. ;) Good cause.
Cindy Dawg, Good question!
Usually he turned out so well because he was a gelding :) A lot of good geldings were really sorry *ss studs.
Keep in mind not all registries allow stored semen or AI unless both horses are live at the location. I think Arabian Registration still doesn't allow it and some others don't either. I figure there's lots of good genes out there... It's not hard to find a stud.
D. To be eligible for registration, a foal must be the result of a stallion’s Breeding with a broodmare (which is the physical mounting of a broodmare by a stallion with intromission of the penis and ejaculation of semen into the reproductive tract). As an aid to the Breeding, a portion of the ejaculate produced by the stallion during such mating may immediately be placed in the uterus of the broodmare being bred. A natural gestation must take place in, and delivery must be from, the body of the same broodmare in which the foal was conceived. Without limiting the above, any foal resulting from or produced by the processes of Artificial Insemination, Embryo Transfer or Transplant, Cloning or any other form of genetic manipulation not herein specified, shall not be eligible for registration.
Hello,
Just got in from riding. It's a very nice day here. We climbed alot of hills again today. The first ride I'm hoping to go to in April is in Ark, and that's all that ride is, up and down. Very little flat land.
Ruthie made it in yet?
Becky
Ruthy is on the ground but not here yet. They stopped to eat on the way down. I expect her here any time, I keep looking out the window :~D
Well that's great, you didn't have such a long wait then.
Don't forget to check in occasionally with pictures:)
Becky
Will do :~D
We did buy a bag of carrots so the horses will give her the time of day at the gate...
I'm with you on frequent treats, but when visitors come, it's really the best way to get the horses to come up and stay interested in them :~D
That's just a disclaimer for all the folk who will say "but you were giving treats in those pictures!" "Yes, and if we did that every day, we'd have brats on our hands."
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