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The FreeRepublic Saddle Club thread! - Thread SEVEN
See our "who's who" page! ^

Posted on 07/14/2005 3:23:55 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog

The FreeRepublic Saddle Club - Who's Who *pics*

This is a horse chat thread where we share ideas, ask for input from other horsemen, and talk about our riding and horse-keeping. We have a lot of different kinds of riders and horses, and a lot to share. In the previous threads we have had a great time talking through lessons, training, horse lamenesses, illnesses and pregnancies... and always sharing pictures and stories.

I always have a link to this thread on my profile page, so if you have something to say and can't find the thread in latest posts… look for it there and wake the thread up!

I also have a ping list for horse threads that are of interest, and Becky pings everyone most mornings. Let Becky (Paynoattentionmanbehindthecurtain) and/or me know if you would like to be on the ping list. As FreeRepublic is a political site, our politics and other issues will probably blend in…. There are many issues for horsemen that touch politics… land use, animal rights/abuse cases that make the news…. Legislation that might affect horse owners.

So... like the previous threads, this is intended as fun place to come and share stories, pictures, questions and chit-chat, unguided and unmoderated and that we come together here as friends. There are lots of ways of doing things and we all have our quirks, tricks and specialties that are neat to learn about.

Previous threads:

The FreeRepublic Saddle Club thread - thread ONE
The FreeRepublic Saddle Club thread - Thread TWO!
The FreeRepublic Saddle Club thread - Thread THREE!
The FreeRepublic Saddle Club thread! - Thread FOUR
The FreeRepublic Saddle Club thread! - Thread FIVE
The FreeRepublic Saddle Club thread! - Thread SIX

New folk and occasional posters, jump right in and introduce yourselves, tell us about your horses, and post pictures if you've got them!


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To: FrogInABlender

Nylon does last longer then leather. I replaced the leather latigo and billet strap that came with my saddle after about 3-4 years. had the same nylon one ever since and it looks as good now as when i bought them.

You're right, we should check that stuff everytime we ride,,,but:)

Becky


381 posted on 07/20/2005 12:44:09 PM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain (Don't be afraid to try: Remember, the ark was built by amateur's, and the Titanic by professionals.)
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain

I do think the saddle doesn't look symmetrical in the top pic, but the pic isn't really exactly straight on (???) so it's hard to see it in a pic, you're right. The wear spot in the fleece is much more localized than I was picturing. If that corresponds with the sore spot on Harley... then I'd really still recommend a trip with Harley, your new pad, and the saddle, to whoever would be the best at fitting... just to see if the new pad does the trick or if anything else should be done.

But that's just because I don't feel real well qualified to assess fit, and horses can be so stoic about it.


382 posted on 07/20/2005 12:50:55 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog

Your right I had to stand off to the side to take the picture.

The wear spot does correspond to the rub spot on Harley. I wish I had paid attention to the underside of the saddle, to see if it wore like that over night, or just a slow wearing....

Becky


383 posted on 07/20/2005 1:01:10 PM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain (Don't be afraid to try: Remember, the ark was built by amateur's, and the Titanic by professionals.)
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
I think I can see a difference. The front of the bar on the right looks more flared and rounded than the bar on the left. I circled it in the picture. The one on the left looks kinda flat...

The bar on the left would be the one on the same side as the hole in the fleece so there may be more pressure under the flat side. I don't pretend to know anything about saddle fit but that never keeps me from offering an opinion. ;o)

384 posted on 07/20/2005 1:03:40 PM PDT by FrogInABlender
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To: HairOfTheDog
en I'd really still recommend a trip with Harley, your new pad, and the saddle, to whoever would be the best at fitting... just to see if the new pad does the trick or if anything else should be done.

You know you're right about horses being stoic. But a rub spot on the horse is a rub spot on the horse. If It doesn't clear up with a new pad, then I will have to try again about figuring out what to do. 2 things tho. I've had this saddle on numerous horses for great lengths of time with no problem. I think the saddle with good pads will be alright for at least most horses. Maybe Harley is going to be the exception. I'll know if it doesn't work, the rub spot will still be there. As far as if it's hurting another horse. They may be stoic, but I still think when they are being tested for a sore back it would have shown up, and i had vets check them at rides after 5-6 hour rides 2 days in a row with no problem.

And then the second thing....I've reached the point, I don't trust anyone. I don't know who would be best at telling me if the saddle fits him or any horse or not. Their all out to make a buck. I don't blame them, but....

If the rub spot clears up, and he doesn't show signs of soreness, I'm going with that the pad was the problem, and i need to make sure I always have a good pad. Something everyone should do anyway, I just got too tight:)

Becky

385 posted on 07/20/2005 1:12:33 PM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain (Don't be afraid to try: Remember, the ark was built by amateur's, and the Titanic by professionals.)
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To: FrogInABlender

LOL....and thank you for that opinion.

Now what is your opinion, about it not being a problem for 10 years and now showing up. Is it the horse or the pad? What would you do to figure it out?

Becky


386 posted on 07/20/2005 1:14:24 PM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain (Don't be afraid to try: Remember, the ark was built by amateur's, and the Titanic by professionals.)
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To: FrogInABlender; HairOfTheDog

Hey, let me run this by you guys.

I've got Jenny's saddle, and rode in it today, and it felt just like mine.

What if I rode Harley in it till the rub either got worse, or healed? Wouldn't that tell me if it was the saddle or the horse?

And in the mean time I could be using my saddle on Rusty. If he sores up or gets a rub then I'd know something has changed with my saddle. If he doesn't Then it could still be that the new pad fixed it. But if Harley heals up, with Jenny's then I could go back to mine. If it comes back I'd know it was him and my saddle that wasn't going to work.

Becky


387 posted on 07/20/2005 2:33:10 PM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain (Don't be afraid to try: Remember, the ark was built by amateur's, and the Titanic by professionals.)
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain

I get ya... :~D


388 posted on 07/20/2005 2:33:55 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain

Can you take a picture that shows the rub spot on Harley? I can't advise without seeing what you are talking about and wondering... if he has a spot that needs healing, shouldn't he be rested until it is healed?.... With pressure and heat and sweating under saddle, it may not heal even with a good fitting saddle.

By "felt just like mine", do you mean the ~rolling~ motion you described about yours? or do you mean that it felt normal or good?


389 posted on 07/20/2005 2:40:54 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog

I really hate doing it by process of elimination. I really don't want/like to hurt a horse. But I think that is about all even the best saddle maker could do in this situation. Too many years, too many horses with no problems to not at least see if it was the wore out pad.

Becky


390 posted on 07/20/2005 2:42:24 PM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain (Don't be afraid to try: Remember, the ark was built by amateur's, and the Titanic by professionals.)
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To: HairOfTheDog

It felt normal and good.

I was just sitting here thinking about if I should let this rub spot heal... I'll run out and take a picture. I don't know how well you'll be able to see it. Today when I rode it had what felt almost like a scab. But it never did bled or even look raw before, Just the hair off and pink skin showing. Being a palomino makes it even hard for me to see.

Could an old pad (keep blaming this on the pad:), cause a horse to get like a skin fungus. I remember when I first got Rusty he had a fungus, that cause his hair to rub off under the saddle. Once I treated the fungus the hair grew back and he's been fine since. I haven't had that pad on any horses other then my own tho since last summer, and no other of my horses have a fungus. But the way he lost that hair made me think that at first. It kind of came out in clumps with dry skin around the bottom, You know what I mean. Have you ever seen rain rot?

Becky


391 posted on 07/20/2005 2:47:47 PM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain (Don't be afraid to try: Remember, the ark was built by amateur's, and the Titanic by professionals.)
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain

It would certainly be improved with a new pad.... I wonder about the unevenness about the way it's wearing.... and I assume that's what you're wondering about too.

And I understand your frustration.... you've been told all kinds of stuff that is now known to be wrong about this saddle and what's going on with it. And here you have internet people who can't really look at either the horse or the saddle 'cept in pictures, trying to give you even more opinion. :~D

Two more ??? I wondered, in this process of elimination....

Have you looked at Harley's back from above? Can you get up on something high and see if ~he's~ symmetrical? Some horses aren't.

What did you say the other day about someone saying your stirrups weren't the same length? Might that have something to do with it?


392 posted on 07/20/2005 2:50:42 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain

I've only seen rain rot in pictures....

I think an old pad, and a dirty pad, could make for a perfect breeding incubator for fungus or bacteria.... but the pad you replaced doesn't really touch the horse does it? Is the underpad you use the same one for all? And is it hosed off regularly?


393 posted on 07/20/2005 2:53:49 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog

Becky

394 posted on 07/20/2005 2:58:49 PM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain (Don't be afraid to try: Remember, the ark was built by amateur's, and the Titanic by professionals.)
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To: HairOfTheDog

I had to post that picture over Macks shoulder, he's back at his computer doing bookwork. How inconsiderate of him HUH:).

Both the pads I would be using on him now are new. I've only had them on him twice. Yes the pad I replaced was the only pad I had on him. I didn't put a navajo under it, so it did touch him all over.

Anyway the picture. The dark spot I'm pointing at is the rub. To feel it it almost feels like a hard crusty scab now. That surprised me beings as it didn't seem bad enough to make a scab. That's why I'm wondering if I need to let that heal and come off before riding him with anything. I rode him for a short time today with Jenny's saddle, and when I took it off, it was fine. Just the same. But it was a very short ride, 45 minutes.

Becky


395 posted on 07/20/2005 3:05:35 PM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain (Don't be afraid to try: Remember, the ark was built by amateur's, and the Titanic by professionals.)
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain

Is the pink bare skin? Is the hair around it white or does it just look that way?


396 posted on 07/20/2005 3:06:39 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog

I think what you are asking about being pink is the scab. He has no pink skin showing now, just the scab, then normal hair around it, except, yes the hair around it is turning white. And I swear that has just happened in a very short time. I mean, I never noticed that till the hair started coming off. Between the hair growing white, and the rub is when I started getting very concerned.


Becky


397 posted on 07/20/2005 3:17:44 PM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain (Don't be afraid to try: Remember, the ark was built by amateur's, and the Titanic by professionals.)
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain

Well.... I'd rest it till it healed. If the skin and hair follicles have been damaged, I don't think that any pad and saddle, with the heat and pressure and sweat, would be good for it healing.

If you let it heal completely, then try your saddle with the new pad, then you'll know if that saddle is going to work with him. The way the saddle has worn is a concern... that you can see the bars through the leather on one side but not the other makes me wonder if there's still a flaw in that saddle, either old or new, that is just going to show up again. Maybe it won't... maybe the worn out pad caused the saddle to wear that way too... and not the other way around.

Thank Mack for letting me see the picture.... This is important ;~D


398 posted on 07/20/2005 3:18:21 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog

I'll go back and find that picture of him when I gave him his bath right before TX. See if I can see white hair in it.

Becky


399 posted on 07/20/2005 3:18:41 PM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain (Don't be afraid to try: Remember, the ark was built by amateur's, and the Titanic by professionals.)
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain

I wondered if the hair was actually white, or if his coloring makes it look that way.... his hair may not be the same color from root to end. Bay's isn't. It's lighter at the root and dark at the end.


400 posted on 07/20/2005 3:20:29 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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