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Lord of the Rings - help needed (vanity)
Posted on 06/24/2005 7:13:06 AM PDT by hispanichoosier
I need help with LOTR. Two friends and I were discussing the books and movies last weekend. Friend 1 observed that the relationship between Frodo and Sam (in the movies) had homosexual overtones. Friend 2 retorted that the relationship is based on the master/servant relationship of old England and that Friend 1 was looking at it through American eyes, where rugged individualism is more prized. I--caught in the middle--had to admit that I thought that Sean Astin overplayed Sam at times but was great overall.
So, was Friend 1 right about the gay overtones, or was Friend 2's explanation correct? I'm rather at a loss over the whole debacle.
TOPICS: Culture/Society; The Hobbit Hole
KEYWORDS: aragorn; bilbo; fanboy; frodo; gandalf; lord; rings; sam; thisthreadisgay; tolkien
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To: stands2reason
Hmm - I could be wrong. I've been known to be!
:-)
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posted on
06/24/2005 9:40:14 PM PDT
by
little jeremiah
(A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
To: HairOfTheDog
Um, I just looked at your homepage.
I now fear for all people who desecrate the hobbit.
242
posted on
06/24/2005 9:44:30 PM PDT
by
carolinacrazy
(What?!...That could never happen in a.... world.)
To: carolinacrazy
~looks sideways~
What do you ~mean~?
To: HairOfTheDog
244
posted on
06/24/2005 9:47:50 PM PDT
by
carolinacrazy
(What?!...That could never happen in a.... world.)
To: stands2reason
WHEN DID YOU GET TO HEAR THAT?!?!
would love to hear him sing more
do you know if he still talks of rooming with Dom here in the states? When they first talked about doing that after filming LOTR, my first thoughts were "Dom is gonna drag Billy down." Dom might do better staying in the UK.
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posted on
06/24/2005 10:39:30 PM PDT
by
Alkhin
("Oh! Oh!" cried my idiot crew. "It's a ghoul - we are lost!" ~ Jack Aubrey)
To: HairOfTheDog
If a certain someone HAD watched the movie, they might well learn what happens to CAVE
carolinacrazyTROLLS when they bust in on an other wise private discussion.
sheesh. seems like some are more obsessed with harrassing those who are actually passionate about something.
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posted on
06/24/2005 10:43:09 PM PDT
by
Alkhin
("Oh! Oh!" cried my idiot crew. "It's a ghoul - we are lost!" ~ Jack Aubrey)
To: stands2reason
Did the pics show up? :-) yes, and my dog wants to growl at you for the sudden weight of a body falling in a big THUD! directly on top of him as he lay peacefully next to my chair, doin' nuttin' to nobody!!
247
posted on
06/24/2005 10:46:32 PM PDT
by
Alkhin
("Oh! Oh!" cried my idiot crew. "It's a ghoul - we are lost!" ~ Jack Aubrey)
To: Alkhin
I thought Dom was living with Elijah.
But I believe he's in Hawaii now with LOST.
I thought Billy was happy in Scotland with his girlfriend. But what do I know?
I have Billeh singing "Hit Me" on MP3. If you want, Freepmail me your email addy and I'll send it to ya. And more pics, if you'd like.
248
posted on
06/24/2005 11:09:15 PM PDT
by
stands2reason
(GINOBILI and HORRY are my MVPS!!!)
To: cyborg; Petronski
Awww, man, you snagged The Tronz?
How cool is that? I'm sooo jealous! :-)
249
posted on
06/24/2005 11:18:53 PM PDT
by
stands2reason
(GINOBILI and HORRY are my MVPS!!!)
To: stands2reason
*lol* Isn't it cool? I sent him to sleep and I'm still awake. past my bedtime.
250
posted on
06/24/2005 11:20:12 PM PDT
by
cyborg
(http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
To: stands2reason
I'm deeply flattered by your comments...but more importantly, by being 'landed' by cyborg. ;O)
251
posted on
06/24/2005 11:22:53 PM PDT
by
Petronski
(Be alert! The world needs more lerts.)
To: cyborg
Heh ha!
252
posted on
06/24/2005 11:23:22 PM PDT
by
Petronski
(Be alert! The world needs more lerts.)
To: Petronski
HEY!!! LOL this is too geeky.
253
posted on
06/24/2005 11:24:26 PM PDT
by
cyborg
(http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
To: cyborg
No lie, he's one of my favorite Freepers.
You too, as a matter of fact. :-)
Awwwww, I'm verklempt!
Talk amongst yourselves....
Here's a topic: Billy Boyd -- What exactly is he wearing underneath that kilt?
254
posted on
06/24/2005 11:25:45 PM PDT
by
stands2reason
(GINOBILI and HORRY are my MVPS!!!)
To: stands2reason
thanks :-) As for Billy Boyd, well nothing I'm sure.
255
posted on
06/24/2005 11:26:33 PM PDT
by
cyborg
(http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
To: cyborg
256
posted on
06/24/2005 11:27:01 PM PDT
by
Petronski
(Be alert! The world needs more lerts.)
To: Petronski
Awwwwww...
*snorts into hankie*
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posted on
06/24/2005 11:27:31 PM PDT
by
stands2reason
(GINOBILI and HORRY are my MVPS!!!)
To: stands2reason
258
posted on
06/24/2005 11:29:51 PM PDT
by
Petronski
(Be alert! The world needs more lerts.)
To: cyborg; Petronski
Awwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!!!!!!!
{{{{{{{cyborg}}}}}}}}}
{{{{{{{Petronski}}}}}}}}
<3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3
{{{{{{{{{{{{{{cyborg+Petronski}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}
<3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3
Okay, I'm okay now.
Wait, just one more heart - <3
There. All better now. :-)
259
posted on
06/24/2005 11:35:22 PM PDT
by
stands2reason
(GINOBILI and HORRY are my MVPS!!!)
To: stands2reason
You've captured my mood perfectly. ;O)
260
posted on
06/24/2005 11:36:17 PM PDT
by
Petronski
(Be alert! The world needs more lerts.)
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