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Lord of the Rings - help needed (vanity)

Posted on 06/24/2005 7:13:06 AM PDT by hispanichoosier

I need help with LOTR. Two friends and I were discussing the books and movies last weekend. Friend 1 observed that the relationship between Frodo and Sam (in the movies) had homosexual overtones. Friend 2 retorted that the relationship is based on the master/servant relationship of old England and that Friend 1 was looking at it through American eyes, where rugged individualism is more prized. I--caught in the middle--had to admit that I thought that Sean Astin overplayed Sam at times but was great overall.

So, was Friend 1 right about the gay overtones, or was Friend 2's explanation correct? I'm rather at a loss over the whole debacle.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; The Hobbit Hole
KEYWORDS: aragorn; bilbo; fanboy; frodo; gandalf; lord; rings; sam; thisthreadisgay; tolkien
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To: Tax-chick
OH you missed it?!

Alkhin
who can't believe someone would miss the sight of a hobbit in Gondorian armor...but that's just me... LOL :D

201 posted on 06/24/2005 2:57:50 PM PDT by Alkhin ("Oh! Oh!" cried my idiot crew. "It's a ghoul - we are lost!" ~ Jack Aubrey)
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To: Alkhin

We often check a movie out of the library 4 or 5 times before I see the whole thing. When I can actually sit down and watch something (after all the kids are out of the way) I tend to fall asleep.


202 posted on 06/24/2005 2:59:22 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Working Class Zero with wall-to-wall carpeting.)
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To: Tax-chick
I hear ya loud and clear! LOL I havent seen too many movies myself. Sometimes I have to tell the child "go play in your room for two hours, okay?" because that is the only way I will get any peace to watch what I want.

:D

203 posted on 06/24/2005 4:19:20 PM PDT by Alkhin ("Oh! Oh!" cried my idiot crew. "It's a ghoul - we are lost!" ~ Jack Aubrey)
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To: stands2reason

Nope, it only kept Bilbo young because he wore it on his person so much of the time, and used it quite a bit. Not so with Frodo.


204 posted on 06/24/2005 6:12:23 PM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
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To: little jeremiah


I could have sworn that Gandalf comes back and is surprised that Frodo hasn't aged.


205 posted on 06/24/2005 7:06:02 PM PDT by stands2reason (GINOBILI and HORRY are my MVPS!!!)
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To: Tax-chick
That's not what I meant!

Oh, well, excuse me while I slink away now...

206 posted on 06/24/2005 7:09:17 PM PDT by stands2reason (GINOBILI and HORRY are my MVPS!!!)
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To: Tax-chick
When I can actually sit down and watch something (after all the kids are out of the way) I tend to fall asleep.

You must be related to my husband.

Halfway through a movie, I often have to say, "WAKE UP! Okay, now how far do I have to rewind it?

207 posted on 06/24/2005 7:12:34 PM PDT by stands2reason (GINOBILI and HORRY are my MVPS!!!)
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To: Alkhin

Did the pics show up? :-)


208 posted on 06/24/2005 7:13:27 PM PDT by stands2reason (GINOBILI and HORRY are my MVPS!!!)
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To: Tax-chick; Alkhin

Of course, you haven't really heard Billy sing until you've heard him sing "Hit Me Baby One More Time" while playing along on the guitar. :-)


209 posted on 06/24/2005 7:17:06 PM PDT by stands2reason (GINOBILI and HORRY are my MVPS!!!)
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To: HairOfTheDog
Don't be so rash. I was just kidding.

I could give a pinch of monkey crap about any homo overtones in that movie.

Great story.....yeah....but too much marching for me.


210 posted on 06/24/2005 8:15:59 PM PDT by carolinacrazy (What?!...That could never happen in a.... world.)
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To: HairOfTheDog
And I won't imagine.... I'd rather be in my head than yours.

Well.....bye.

Next time keep it inside your own head and shut the hell up.

211 posted on 06/24/2005 8:17:29 PM PDT by carolinacrazy (What?!...That could never happen in a.... world.)
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To: carolinacrazy

Heh.... You're getting less and less witty with every post.


212 posted on 06/24/2005 8:21:07 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
Heh.... You're getting less and less witty with every post.

Dooood, this is not witty banter by any means, and was not intended to be.

I just think it is a little funny when people get so wrapped up in their feature films.

Oh Hair of the dogs-ass, kiss me you fool.


213 posted on 06/24/2005 8:30:55 PM PDT by carolinacrazy (What?!...That could never happen in a.... world.)
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To: carolinacrazy

I'd happily kiss either one of them.


214 posted on 06/24/2005 8:31:56 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: carolinacrazy; ecurbh

errrr.... if my husband doesn't mind.


215 posted on 06/24/2005 8:32:28 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: carolinacrazy; HairOfTheDog

Funniest exchange.ever.


216 posted on 06/24/2005 8:33:40 PM PDT by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: hispanichoosier
Your friends may own this website.

The Gay Question

217 posted on 06/24/2005 8:35:50 PM PDT by carolinacrazy (What?!...That could never happen in a.... world.)
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To: cyborg

I'm not sure it is worthy of that.


218 posted on 06/24/2005 8:38:14 PM PDT by carolinacrazy (What?!...That could never happen in a.... world.)
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To: HairOfTheDog
Huuuuhh.....(taken back a gasp)....you never told me you were married.

Shame on you.

219 posted on 06/24/2005 8:39:41 PM PDT by carolinacrazy (What?!...That could never happen in a.... world.)
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To: cyborg

I dunno.... I've had funnier exchanges while having a pap smear ;~D


220 posted on 06/24/2005 8:43:53 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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