Oh, and BTW, I've never heard of a "vine Maple". I didn't know a tree would do that. How cool.
Becky
The pictures you can see of our trail ride where the scenery is just ferns and tall trees, they've come through and cleaned out the vine maple. The ferns come right back. They go through about every ten years in the areas that will be logged and clean out the understory or it just gets impassible. You can sure tell the difference when we are in the areas that haven't been done yet, or where we are near the marshes and creeks that the loggers don't touch.