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Would you Adam 'n' Eve it ... dinosaurs in Eden (CRE-VO) Mixing science with creationism
THE OBSERVER ^ | 2005May 22, 2005 | By Paul Harris

Posted on 05/24/2005 9:14:01 PM PDT by restornu

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To: Luna
I thought dinosaurs died out millions of years ago

And maybe: some others
Among others....
21 posted on 05/25/2005 1:07:49 PM PDT by GrandEagle
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To: Luna
The point being that perhaps Man is wrong and God is right and these animal species are not that old.

Very Cordially,
GE
22 posted on 05/25/2005 1:10:10 PM PDT by GrandEagle
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To: GrandEagle

Sorry, but I don't believe in a literal 24 hour period for each day it took God to create the earth. I don't think God's sense of time is the same as ours. But again, I'm not going to worry about it. It really has no bearing on my eternal salvation.


23 posted on 05/25/2005 1:12:15 PM PDT by Luna (Lobbing the Holy Hand Grenade at Liberalism)
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To: restornu
About a month and a half or two months ago, and this was on all the major newswires, there was a story about some people breaking a tyranosaur leg bone in half to get it onto a helicopter from a place from which there was no other way to get it out of, and finding soft tissue inside the bone.

This is what tyranosaur meat looks like:

The MSNBC version of the story can be read here.

Does any of that look like it's 70 million years old to you?

24 posted on 05/25/2005 1:13:53 PM PDT by tahotdog
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To: Luna

No problem, Have a great day!


25 posted on 05/25/2005 1:14:04 PM PDT by GrandEagle
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To: Luna
Sorry, but I don't believe in a literal 24 hour period for each day it took God to create the earth. I don't think God's sense of time is the same as ours. But again, I'm not going to worry about it. It really has no bearing on my eternal salvation.

Jesus Christ speaking regarding Adam and Eve:

Mar 10:6 But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female.

Not many people realize He said this! This speaks more to the Theory of Evolution than anything else.

26 posted on 05/25/2005 1:25:01 PM PDT by bondserv (Creation sings a song of praise, Declaring the wonders of Your ways †)
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To: bondserv
Mar 10:6 But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female.
Excellent reference!
I didn't think of that one.

GE
27 posted on 05/25/2005 1:28:19 PM PDT by GrandEagle
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To: GrandEagle
Excellent reference! I didn't think of that one.

Cinches it for me. Got no higher authority I can go to.

28 posted on 05/25/2005 1:30:21 PM PDT by bondserv (Creation sings a song of praise, Declaring the wonders of Your ways †)
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To: bondserv

Yep! Excellent observation. Think Darwin read the Bible?


29 posted on 05/25/2005 1:37:21 PM PDT by Luna (Lobbing the Holy Hand Grenade at Liberalism)
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To: wallcrawlr

Okay.

I'll bite. (Pardon the expression.)

Why would God create animals designed (teeth, jaws, digestive tract, many other features) to eat meat if they were never going to eat meat unless man Fell?

You cannot seriously tell me that you can look at a cheetah, so wonderfully designed to run down prey, and believe that God's original intent was for it to eat grass. Until Man screwed up God's plan.

Or maybe you can.


30 posted on 05/25/2005 1:40:24 PM PDT by Restorer
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To: bondserv
I have been through all sorts of beliefs. For a while I did the Day - age thing.
As I studied Gods word obvious problems with that thought came up so I moved to the "Gap Theory" always trying to reconcile God word to "science". Continued study presented lots of problems with this belief also. I finally decided that God had written what he meant to write.
As I continue to study, I find it easier and easier to let Gods word tell me what it means instead of me studying it and adapting it to fit my beliefs.

Romans 3:
3 For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect?
4 God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar;

1 Tim 2:
4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

Cordially,
GE
31 posted on 05/25/2005 1:46:44 PM PDT by GrandEagle
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To: Luna
Yep! Excellent observation. Think Darwin read the Bible?

From what I've read, Darwin started off his college as a theology student. However, he got bitter towards God and decided to change majors.

Many naturalistic philosophers during his time influenced him to take an obviously unbiblical approach to explaining the reality of life. Being that everyone misunderstood the microscopic aspects of life, his theory took wing on finches beaks (which we now know was just adaptation back and forth between big beaks and pointy beaks). The eye would have confounded him even more if he had known the extent of it's complexity.

Atheists have decided to continue towing the line, in order to avoid accountability to a superior being, despite the obvious. They put it out as quick as they can produce it. it should be called the UnDiscovery channel. And NOVAlue.

32 posted on 05/25/2005 2:00:53 PM PDT by bondserv (Creation sings a song of praise, Declaring the wonders of Your ways †)
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To: Restorer
bite
good one

designed to eat meat

I dont know...but from Gen 1:29-30, it says they were designed to eat plants and the plants were treated like meat.
In Isaiah 11:6-9, "The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them. 7 And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox. 8 And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice' den. 9 They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea.”

I do not understand either why there could be a vegetarian piranha...but God says there was so thats what I believe.

33 posted on 05/25/2005 2:02:01 PM PDT by wallcrawlr (http://www.bionicear.com)
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To: wallcrawlr

You might notice that the quotation from Isaiah is in future tense. It is a prophecy about the future, not a historical statement about the past.

It is also not an enormous stretch to consider the whole passage a metaphor for changes in people.


34 posted on 05/25/2005 2:07:25 PM PDT by Restorer
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To: GrandEagle
I am still not sure what time frame the whole "falling of the third of the angels" thing occurred. That "formless and void" thing in the Hebrew keeps me from dogmatically being a Young Earth Creationist. I lean heavily in that direction, however, based on the correlation between creation week and the sabbath week in the ten commandments. That was etched on stone by the finger of God.

Darwinian evolution is patentedly unbiblical, and obviously a fantasy.
35 posted on 05/25/2005 2:07:40 PM PDT by bondserv (Creation sings a song of praise, Declaring the wonders of Your ways †)
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To: wallcrawlr

ok, I can see that, but I see it as a verse that looks back and predicts the future too.

The dude in the verse is Adam. Adam was the only other perfect man besides Jesus...well that is for a limited time.


36 posted on 05/25/2005 2:10:07 PM PDT by wallcrawlr (http://www.bionicear.com)
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To: bondserv

Ah, yes. The finches. I just figured God created them differently from each other. It would be pretty boring if ALL finches were the same. God takes everything into account, to the smallest details.


37 posted on 05/25/2005 2:19:22 PM PDT by Luna (Lobbing the Holy Hand Grenade at Liberalism)
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To: tahotdog

ahh, the memories...I posted that story on Fr:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1369945/posts

500 posts and 8,000 views

And thats before I got interested in all this debate here on Fr.


38 posted on 05/25/2005 2:41:34 PM PDT by wallcrawlr (http://www.bionicear.com)
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To: restornu
It is Paradise. 'They lived together without fear, for there was no death yet,' the voice intoned about Man and Dinosaur.

If there was no death yet, why did God make predators such as the T-Rex? Doesn't fly, doesn't work. He had to eat something, the bible does say that Adam and Eve ate, so it would appear all the creatures alive at that time must have eaten, a T-Rex was designed to eat meat, therefore it had to kill something or find a dead animal in order to eat.

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