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It's Happening Again (We've Got Another Schiavo, Starving In GA, No Brain-Damage)
Media Release | 4-6-05 | The Family of Mae Magouirk

Posted on 04/07/2005 2:59:57 AM PDT by schmelvin

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To: Fred Nerks

"Once bitten, twice shy!"

This has happened to Ken before?


2,061 posted on 04/11/2005 3:18:20 PM PDT by Smartaleck
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To: schmelvin; eeevil conservative
Gosh, I just don't know, I sent out emails to some places that beth had thrown the family out, but until we know more, I don't know how to 'phrase' our 'plea'. Does that make any sense? I don't know what the family needs. Maybe our point person could see if they have an idea of what they would like us to work on?

I'm willing to do what needs to be done, but I'm kinda not sure what they need and I don't want to make any efforts on their part harder by irritating a delicate balance.

NOT BACKING OFF. LOL JUST NEED MARCHING ORDERS.

;)

2,062 posted on 04/11/2005 3:34:01 PM PDT by mother22wife21 ( "My super power is dancing" -my five year old daughter)
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To: ExPatInFrance
Hint: I am not iterested in reading your views.

Most of the lynch mob crowd isn't either. Something about the irrelevance of the truth...

Can't you find another thread where the people there would like to banter with you?

I assume what you are doing right now is called bantering?

You reserved this thread when? I must have missed the "reserved for expat" sign, newbie.

Youa re distarcting us on this Action Thread

If I knew what it meant to distarct something, I might agree.

I know it's always difficult when you have made up your mind about something, to have the truth shatter all your preconceived notions, but hey, that's the value of learning, even if you don't want to!

BTW, spell check is our friend. Oh, and let me know when the hanging is over, so I can come back. On second thought, I'll hang around for awhile. This distarcting thing might just be interesting.

2,063 posted on 04/11/2005 3:36:17 PM PDT by MACVSOG68
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To: Smartaleck

Hi Smartaleck,

There was quite a bit of confusion regarding Mae's treatment earlier on this thread, because it wasn't easy for us to get the facts in the beginning.

eeevil has worked very hard to clear things up.

Here is where you will find answers to some of your questions:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1381143/posts?q=1&&page=71#71

Since this was posted on another thread (I'm not sure if it was posted on this one or not) then it's understandable why you might still be wondering what's going on. I hope this clears things up for you, and I'm sorry if any of my earlier posts caused any confusion.


2,064 posted on 04/11/2005 3:43:05 PM PDT by schmelvin
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To: mother22wife21

At this point I think our best plan is to try and research the laws in Ga on this issue to see if this allowed...

Kenneth has attorneys trying to handle this with Beth Gaddy without going into court.


2,065 posted on 04/11/2005 3:43:08 PM PDT by eeevil conservative (Don't Change Minds, Change Lives! Sherri Reese)
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To: eeevil conservative

Thanks eeevil!


2,066 posted on 04/11/2005 3:44:50 PM PDT by schmelvin
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To: Smartaleck

True to your FReeper name, I see.


2,067 posted on 04/11/2005 3:49:07 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Proud to be an Aussie.)
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To: All

32 page court ruling on Miss Mae by Judge Boyd...


http://www.straightupwsherri.blogspot.com/


2,068 posted on 04/11/2005 3:51:06 PM PDT by eeevil conservative (Don't Change Minds, Change Lives! Sherri Reese)
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To: ExPatInFrance
Now that Keneth and family are no longer permitted to visit Mrs. Magouirk (shades of Michael Schiavo) I wonder if the food and hydration delivery systems are still in place.

I would guess she is - that was part of the judges order

2,069 posted on 04/11/2005 3:52:41 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...BUT YOU CAN'T FOOL ALL OF THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME." Lincoln)
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To: eeevil conservative

I am also wondering...

I'm not sure where this new hospital is located. Is she still in Georgia or in Alabama? If she is no longer in Georgia, is there anything the Alabama courts can do about this?


2,070 posted on 04/11/2005 3:53:56 PM PDT by schmelvin
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To: mother22wife21

I understand your concern, but I'm heartened by the fact that Mae is in a hospital not a hospice. The granddaughter may be able to prevent visitors from family because she has temporary guardianship, but one thing she cannot do, is influence the doctors on the treatment that Mae will receive.
Granddaughter has shown her true colours. My guess is the family will reach an agreement. Money will probably change hands. Ten years of running errands, what's that worth?

The granddaughter is holding Mae hostage. It's her last card. Ain't human nature grand?


2,071 posted on 04/11/2005 3:59:20 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Proud to be an Aussie.)
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To: eeevil conservative
I have answered questions, then end up back in the smae place with people. I also hate when some people say things like "SHE NEVER HAD A FEEDING TUBE! KEN LIED"

Then I think we are completely in agreement, since I feel the same way. Other than the judge, I doubt if anyone here can say that Ken lied, or that she (Mae) never had a feeding tube. But then, by the same token, those who had condemned Gaddy, the judge and the hospice before any information of relevance came out would seem to fall into that category.

I have yet to hear Ken say that- not have I seen him write it.

So far, we are in complete agreement. I've not heard that either. Which is why I was questioning another for saying it.

It's that stuff that is ridiculous- I am not saying you have done that-- just kinda explaining my POV.

And I respect your point of view, and your desire to see justice done. My only hope is that in the future, those who initially accepted one side of this issue before the whole story came out will pause a bit when the next one comes out...and it will.

Then you get the KEN IS A DEM.

Yes, I've heard that and don't know if it's true or not. I responded to one poster who asked what possible motive could Ken have for going public when he did, and my response was that if he were a Democrat operative, as some here have stated, it could serve to make conservatives look foolish. But as I pointed out, that simply anwered a speculative question about what he as a Dem might get. After all, it does seem strange to some of us that when he did go public, he left out a lot of pretty relevant information, regardless of his reasons. And without that information, a lot of needless charges and conjecture took place, including action items such as faxes and calls to numerous elected officials, etc.

Questions are good. nipping at heals for attention is childish..

But at the same time, a lot of long standing Freepers have been chastised, insulted and otherwise verbally attacked in every conceivable way over the past few weeks simply for asking those questions.

People learn very little by simply dittoing each other. Real learning comes from having to support a position and facing the questions none of the dittos would ask. It rarely comes from only those with a particular agenda, including news sources.

Group think is never healthy!

2,072 posted on 04/11/2005 4:00:45 PM PDT by MACVSOG68
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To: schmelvin

"There was quite a bit of confusion regarding Mae's treatment earlier on this thread, because it wasn't easy for us to get the facts in the beginning."

Yes it is a bit confusing. Some people apparently got a little irritated. ;-)


2,073 posted on 04/11/2005 4:08:59 PM PDT by Smartaleck
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To: eeevil conservative

I have tried very, very hard to read that document, but so far the only conclusion I've been able to reach is that the typist needs to be declared mentally incompetent and made a ward of the state!

Does anyone here have a Secret Typo Decoder Ring? Sheesh!


2,074 posted on 04/11/2005 4:16:03 PM PDT by schmelvin
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To: schmelvin

She is in Alabama-- but the court order says Gaddy is guardian- per agreement. There are stipulations in the order- so it is a matter of amking sure she sticks to them- and the fact that she has denied visitation may be an act of "not in good faith" or something like that-- don't know...


2,075 posted on 04/11/2005 4:16:20 PM PDT by eeevil conservative (Don't Change Minds, Change Lives! Sherri Reese)
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To: eeevil conservative

WHO IS THIS ABOUT? (The document is very difficult to read.)

snip:


(a) "Budd; , I have discovered that Beth (Elizahctt A, O«ddy) i* writing unauthorized. checks >n my account. 1 just cftn't trust her anymore at all. Would you please get with me at d tell me what I need to do to have her re noved from doing this. Also, 1 want to replii :c Beth and appoint you (Buddy) to havt any power <rf attorney and to act on my beb ilf if 1 get sick."

(b) "Lorui*, I am scared Beth U stealing money fmw my cheeking account, t have tok Buddy already and suk him to please help me remove her horn being able to do it. ; f you feel its OK, I *ant to *t»point Budtly as my guardian."

(C) "Kem ,y, Beth (Elizabeth Ax Gaddy) i» ffying to make ma give my ear to Pat (Elisabeth A. G iddy's fwther) »ad I don't want to do this became 1 neeC jit so my women (her dalij housekeeper) c«i taJce me to the beauty shop and my appointment. I tc Id her no but she keeps bothering me about it and she's now treating me real nu: in, Charlie (Mae MagouLrk's deceased husband) and I bought Pat the house she live: in and even pay the property taxes on it I would think that is enough but now thi ;< What should I do?"

WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?


2,076 posted on 04/11/2005 4:17:39 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Proud to be an Aussie.)
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To: schmelvin

LOL!!
!
NO!

It is a an image converted into a Word document-- LOL!

that is what happens-- It gets garbled!

That is why I wrote this at the beginning of the post--

I am converting it again into a web page format-- that should work better-- it just takes FOREVER!


2,077 posted on 04/11/2005 4:20:30 PM PDT by eeevil conservative (Don't Change Minds, Change Lives! Sherri Reese)
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To: schmelvin; eeevil conservative; All

UAB is in ALABAMA, not Georgia. Since Mae is now in Alabama, can Ken take this case to the courts in Alabama and get a different ruling?


2,078 posted on 04/11/2005 4:21:03 PM PDT by schmelvin
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To: schmelvin

Honestly--I don't know--

I talked with him a bit today and we chatted strategy-- I am NO ATTORNEY but I have been in politics awhile and so has he-- so strategy is what we do-- anyway-- I don't want to betray any confidence--
but I can say this.

The best bet is to try and get Boyd to handle it in Ruth's (Ken's mom) favor. Then if all else fails try it in Alabama-- his attorneys will be able to advise him better than I- but we were just thinking out loud. The last thing we want to do is tick off Boyd any more than he already is--


2,079 posted on 04/11/2005 4:29:53 PM PDT by eeevil conservative (Don't Change Minds, Change Lives! Sherri Reese)
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To: schmelvin

Good question! And meanwhile Miss Mae is in hospital being cared for, where the worst the granddaughter can do is literally hold her hostage by preventing relatives from visitation; the one thing can't do is influence the treatment Miss Mae is receiving.
What do you make of snip #2076?


2,080 posted on 04/11/2005 4:32:07 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Proud to be an Aussie.)
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