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To: JFC

It's understandable that your idol worship of the Bushes prevents you from seeing that they have failed the test when it was time for the rubber to meet the road.

Eisenhower sent troops to Arkansas to uphold the Constitution in '57 when the entire state government was defying the law of the land.

In 2005, when an innocent woman was being starved to death, Jeb and his brother had lots of nice things to say, but the bottom line is, they sat on their hands and did NOTHING.

That is the truth, and there is nothing you can do to change that. Their failure to act has placed our Republic (what's left of it) in even greater danger than it faced at any time in the past, due to a major shift in power from the executive and legislative branches to the judiciary, and America will never be the same now.

Perhaps you can explain, being a fellow Texan like our President, how it is that our Commander In Chief was able to face down Saddam Hussein, bomb the Taliban out of business, free over 50 million muslims in the process, bring democracy to the Middle East, get Gaddafi to give up his WMD, but he couldn't find the stones to face down a little swamp-rat judge in Pinellas County Florida who is leading an insurrection, violating the law, and defying the Constitutions of both Florida and the United States?

Take all the time you want.


77 posted on 03/28/2005 8:53:35 AM PST by Mad Mammoth
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To: Mad Mammoth

Hey I'm still waiting on your revolution sign up locations. Or are you just going to bitch and moan and cry doom and not find the "Stones" to start one.


83 posted on 03/28/2005 8:55:04 AM PST by tfecw (Vote Democrat, It's easier than working)
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To: Mad Mammoth

I do have strong admiration for both Jeb and President Bush, I have for both for years. I don't give a rat's behind what you want to call me. However, I think your misguided anger is directed in the wrong place.

I know Jeb and President Bush did all they could other than to be arrested. If by doing that you would have Saved Terri.. I would be suprised. Because they were stopped by Court Order. As I said.. your not a conservative. Start your own party... but you are not one of us.


107 posted on 03/28/2005 9:07:44 AM PST by JFC ( President Bush, You are being prayed for along with our country daily, by millions of us.)
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To: Mad Mammoth

I am not a huge fan of how things were handled by the Florida and Federal exectutive branches --- and I wholly agree that the judiciary has gotten out of control --- but I will point out a few things

"Eisenhower sent troops to Arkansas to uphold the Constitution in '57 when the entire state government was defying the law of the land."

This is correct because Federal government trumps state. Here, there was (according to the stupid federal courts) no federal grant of power for such similar action.

"Jeb and his brother had lots of nice things to say . . but did NOTHING."

Not exactly:

1. GWB pushed through a new federal law. The federal courts --- amazingly --- dropped the ball. THIS IS A HUGE PROBLEM; but not the fault of the president.

The solution is, of course, appointing judges that will actually know their Constitutional role. GWB is the best hope we have for that.

2. Jeb pushed through several laws and was stymied by a collection of Democrats and a few RINO in the Florida Senate.

Neither could go in -- guns blazing --- without a grant of power. Peter did that 2,000 years ago. It was wrong then, and wrong now.

What one must do now is REMEMBER and fix the faulty Florida laws and judiciary --- and Federal Judges --- that allowed this travesty.


122 posted on 03/28/2005 9:16:19 AM PST by MeanWestTexan
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To: Mad Mammoth
Perhaps you can explain, being a fellow Texan like our President, how it is that our Commander In Chief was able to face down Saddam Hussein, bomb the Taliban out of business, free over 50 million muslims in the process, bring democracy to the Middle East, get Gaddafi to give up his WMD, but he couldn't find the stones to face down a little swamp-rat judge in Pinellas County Florida who is leading an insurrection, violating the law, and defying the Constitutions of both Florida and the United States?

Not only that, but we are also losing the moral high ground here. I always thought we were on a higher, moral plane than the people we are fighting against, Al Qaida and others like them. If we keep going down this road, we will lose that high moral plane and we will end up being no better than them. Ever since this flap over Terri with the broken system, it seems like a lot of what we are doing and have done is ringing hollow in my ears from Iraq, the War on Terror and so on. I still support what we are doing, but I admit it just doesn't seem quite the noble purpose it was. We need to regain them oral high ground again, this hasreally affected me that much.
255 posted on 03/28/2005 11:17:21 AM PST by Nowhere Man (I hope you enjoyed your dinner, Terri Schiavo can't. B-()
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To: Mad Mammoth
Perhaps you can explain, being a fellow Texan like our President, how it is that our Commander In Chief was able to face down Saddam Hussein, bomb the Taliban out of business, free over 50 million muslims in the process, bring democracy to the Middle East, get Gaddafi to give up his WMD, but he couldn't find the stones to face down a little swamp-rat judge in Pinellas County Florida who is leading an insurrection, violating the law, and defying the Constitutions of both Florida and the United States?

Good point. Judge Greer is being given a pass for doing some of the very same things we used to justify the ousting of Saddam (i.e. starving and torturing people to death). In Saddam's case we called it a tyranny, even though Iraqi "law" indisputably made Saddam supreme dictator and thus gave him the power to torture people. We ousted him because we knew that law was unjust and we knew what he was doing was wrong. Yet when George Greer, the swamp judge, does it within our own borders we can't stop him because the torture he's ordering against this woman is within the "rule of law"???

291 posted on 03/28/2005 12:08:59 PM PST by GOPcapitalist ("Marxism finds it easy to ally with Islamic zealotism" - Ludwig von Mises)
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