Posted on 03/25/2005 6:27:16 PM PST by steampower
The parents of Terri Schiavo/Schindler just made an impassioned appeal to Florida Governor Jeb Bush to save their dying daughter. Mrs. Schiavo was obviously tired and spoke in a restrained manner, but her husband, Robert, although looking terribly fatigued, used very strong language and placed much of the blame for his daughter's seven days of "torture" directly on Jeb Bush, blaming him for the inaction that is letting Terri be murdered by a "tyrannical" judiciary.
Mr.Schindler says that the Governor has the power to end their ordeal with a "stroke of the pen" and if he had courage he would do it.
I respectfully submit that we could be bound together stronger if one side of this discussion would quit calling the other side death lovers, morally bankrupt, evil, Nazis, and every other nasty pejorative you can think of.
First of all, Chad, I never claimed it wasn't a constitutional republic. My only claim is that there is a higher law than mans'. Even the founding fathers believed such. In fact, for the first 70 or so years of the republic, courts were cognizant of the natural law. Only since the 20th century as all memory of its existence been erased from judicial mind. Sorry to say, but natural law jurisprudence and thought is not an exclusively Catholic idea. The common law, upon which our nations laws are based, took the natural law into account as well. The constitutional republic that you are crowing about is in fact built upon the natural law or higher law. On whose authority did the founding fathers find the gumption to break the law of their sovereign, the King of England. Natural law. The founding fathers broke the law of England because they believed there was a higher law than mans' law.
Come on back when you have done a little more schooling, Chad.
If anyone doesn't see it, you're not being honest with yourself.
Flame me, I'm fire retardant.
Nice get!
Come on, it's late; Carolina just barely won
HUH? :-)
There is no way that the Villinova player traveled.
Every replay had Packer counting a phantom 3rd step!
Oh, Nurse and I were just discussing that!
She didn't *think* she saw the third step; I *thought* I did.........LOL.
Packer's ACC! It made up for the other guy cheering when Villanova scored!
Well, as a Constitutional Republic, we are a nation of laws, not a nation of "Well, we feel that is immoral, and against ourt faith, so we don't have to obey" stuff - We have to work to fix broken laws, not just ignore them and violate them at our leisure.
Chad, do you have even the remotest idea of the history of our nation? The Founding Father's broke the laws of England in order to found this constitutional Republic. Your statement is just ahistorical.
Chad, I never claimed it wasn't a constitutional republic. My only claim is that there is a higher law than mans'. Even the founding fathers believed such. In fact, for the first 70 or so years of the republic, courts were cognizant of the natural law. Only since the 20th century as all memory of its existence been erased from judicial mind. Sorry to say, but natural law jurisprudence and thought is not an exclusively Catholic idea. The common law, upon which our nations laws are based, took the natural law into account as well. The constitutional republic that you are crowing about is in fact built upon the natural law or higher law. On whose authority did the founding fathers find the gumption to break the law of their sovereign, the King of England. Natural law. The founding fathers broke the law of England because they believed there was a higher law than mans' law.
Come on back when you have done a little more schooling, Chad.
I'm wearing my Carolina blue shirt--I didn't see the travel on either replay--and I'm not complaining!
Kind of like some of the Judge Greer calls, eh? :o)
Hey Big Guy. ;-)
*tweet* Personal foul! :D
Thanks for the link. The language is confusing but it is not claiming that Terri will go to hell if someone kills her.
Please read further on. The brief explains that as a Catholic Terri would not make the decision to end her life because of the Church teachings condemning Euthanasia and suicide. It says that for her to advocate her own killing by the withholding of food and water would be a sin of the gravest proportions. It is not saying that Terri soul is in danger of hell if this is done to her. It is saying that Terri would not have made this choice because such a choice voluntarily made would endanger her immortal soul.
http://www.miami.edu/ethics2/schiavo/Filed_07-19-2004_ReliefFromJudgment.pdf
Get over yourself. You ain't saying anything new, nor anything I dont' already know.
If NC plays on Sunday like they did tonight, it'll be Wisconsin packing for St. Louis.
I know.
No worries, I knew.
But it's not a term most would know....
:-)
Best regards!
Um, it ain't evident from your post.
They came out like champions at the start of the 2nd half, then the energy sputtered. Villanova played like the old, old Temple scramblers. They were good!
Under item 6
"In light of these concerns, it is our considered judgment that while legitimate Catholic moral debate continues, decisions about these patients should be guided by a presumption in favor of medically assisted nutrition and hydration. A decision to discontinue such measures should be made in light of a careful assessment of the burdens and benefits of nutrition and hydration for the individual patient and his or her family and community. Such measures must not be withdrawn in order to cause death, but they may be withdrawn if they offer no reasonable hope of sustaining life or pose excessive risks or burdens. We also believe that social and health care policies should be carefully framed so that these patients are not routinely classified as "terminal" or as prime candidates for the discontinuance of even minimal means of life support."
Bump that, conservativebabe.
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