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Are most Science Fiction authors and fans liberals/leftists?

Posted on 01/31/2005 1:37:19 PM PST by EveningStar

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To: EveningStar
The Azimov-Roddenbury generation was clearly dominated by liberal writers. But surely that was a reflection of where the country was in the 1960s. Liberalism in the aftermath of WWII and the age of the civil rights movement wasn't quite the same as it is now, and had a lot more appeal.

I suppose libertarians are overrepresented in SF, as they are among computer professionals. But fantasy fans, are they right or left, or somehow outside both? Does reading about elves and trolls make one squishy soft or encourage healthy reactionary feelings? And what about goths?

121 posted on 01/31/2005 5:44:03 PM PST by x
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To: RightWhale

"the original star trek would have no invasion of iraq.

superior cultures don't disturb primitive cultures."

The prime directive doesn't apply to Humans. :P


122 posted on 01/31/2005 5:45:55 PM PST by grizzly84
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To: EveningStar

Is there a Sci-Fi ping list on FR?


123 posted on 01/31/2005 5:49:16 PM PST by dfwright
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To: EveningStar
I pretty much stopped watching B5 in the first season.

You missed the best part of the show, IMHO. B5 hit its stride during Season 2, and was simply great in seasons 3 and 4. Just my opinion.

124 posted on 01/31/2005 5:57:18 PM PST by Bear_in_RoseBear (On that train all graphite and glitter, undersea by rail / 90 minutes from New York to Paris)
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To: EveningStar
Center-right/libertarian SF writers that I haven't seen mentioned in this thread are F. Paul Wilson, James Hogan, and L. Neil Smith.

Ayn Rand's Anthem is science fiction of a sort.

Harlan Ellison is a crazy liberal (and getting crazier as he gets older) but "Repent Harlequin Said the Ticktockman" is a libertarian classic.

Isaac Asimov was definitely NOT a conservative. His editorials from the 80s in Isaac Asimov's Science Fiction Magazine were full of hysterical Reagan-bashing, as I recall.

125 posted on 01/31/2005 6:06:12 PM PST by denydenydeny
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To: dfwright

"Is there a Sci-Fi ping list on FR?"

I looked for it but couldn't find it.


126 posted on 01/31/2005 7:48:16 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: x

Back in the early '70s, Asimov appeared on David Frost's show. Frost asked Asimov that if he was President, what would be the first thing he would do. Asimov replied, "Fire Agnew." This was prior to the revelation that Agnew was a crook. My reaction was **** you, Asimov.


127 posted on 01/31/2005 7:54:42 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

I guess that was probably a silly question, this being a political/news site. LOL!


128 posted on 01/31/2005 7:57:18 PM PST by dfwright (What you say!!)
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To: dfwright
I do not base necessarily base my opinions on the SF works of these writers, but rather on their separate public political statements.
129 posted on 01/31/2005 8:01:50 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: RightWhale

LOL! I have no idea what you're talking about and at the moment, I'm too lazy to look it up. :)


130 posted on 01/31/2005 8:03:36 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar
I am a life long fan, since the first Arthur C Clarke book that I read as a child.

Like most students under the tutelage of mostly left wing teachers, I started out a bit left and did a U-turn during the Vietnam era when I came to despise democrats like John Kerry.

I still love sci-fi and stay glued to the sci-fi channel on most nights and some days.(DS-9 reruns)

But, having said that, I think lefties find sci-fi entertaining as well, and their are many lefties who are authors, writers and actors in sci-fi films.

I don't know why that is. Perhaps conservatism extends to more than just politics.

131 posted on 01/31/2005 8:10:31 PM PST by Cold Heat (What are fears but voices awry?Whispering harm where harm is not and deluding the unwary. Wordsworth)
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To: denydenydeny

I'll have to reread "Repent Harlequin Said the Ticktockman". Yes, I know it won a Hugo, but a the time, I thought it was stupid.


132 posted on 01/31/2005 8:24:38 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

You must be joking. Read Heinlein.


133 posted on 02/01/2005 7:24:58 AM PST by boris (The deadliest weapon of mass destruction in history is a Leftist with a word processor)
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To: x

Well, Tolkien was religious conservative. The ability to enjoy fantasy and religious faith seem to spring from the same source and good fantasy literature may nudge one toward religion. C.S. Lewis knew that. I think it has to do with the sense of wonder and a feeling that there are powers beyond our knowledge and understanding. On the other hand, in sci-fi everything is logical and, well, scientific.

I am not too coherent today.


134 posted on 02/01/2005 7:53:31 AM PST by A Longer Name
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To: All

In the late sixties, most of the famous writers (organized by Asimov) took out 2 full page ads in the Magazine of Fantasy and Science Fiction. One page was a list of those authors who supported the Vietnam War, the other was a list of those against it.

The only names I remember for sure was Asimov on the against list and Heinlein on the for list. I do remember being suprised by some writers politics.


135 posted on 02/01/2005 8:01:55 AM PST by parcel_of_rogues
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To: neb52

Agree about Goodkind. If you look at his website, Ayn Rand is a heavy influence. Individual freedom and liberty is a heavy theme throughout all his books.

Guess he is more fantasy than sci-fi, though.

I think he is an excellent author.


136 posted on 02/01/2005 8:01:57 AM PST by beaureguard
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To: boris

I didn't mean "all." I meant "most." :)


137 posted on 02/01/2005 8:49:55 AM PST by EveningStar
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To: speed_addiction

I think the series is up to eight books now. I have the most recent waiting for me at home, I just have to finish "Blog" first before I start on it.


138 posted on 02/01/2005 8:57:19 AM PST by Starter ("Senator Frist every day wishes he had a forum like mine." - Harry Reid)
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To: EveningStar
"Heinlein was probably libertarian. I would call Bradbury a moderate."

Add to that list of DEFINITELY NOT LIBERAL authors:

S.M. Stirling

Michael Crichton

Orson Scott Card

139 posted on 02/01/2005 9:02:28 AM PST by Mad Dawgg (French: old Europe word meaning surrender)
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To: discostu

Well, I'll go the non-snarky route here and note that Ringo's had a book published in June 04, July 04, October 04, February 05, and more scheduled for April, June and August. He may be a bit too busy to hang out here right now.


140 posted on 02/01/2005 9:02:35 AM PST by Starter ("Senator Frist every day wishes he had a forum like mine." - Harry Reid)
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