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To: kerouacbal
She won't go to counseling

Well, then she won't. You can still take your own life in hand.

163 posted on 12/20/2004 7:19:39 AM PST by valkyrieanne (card-carrying South Park Republican)
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To: kerouacbal



1. Forget all the other advice you've gotten here.

2. Stop fearing divorce and admit it could be best for all concerned including your child.

3. The fundamental reason your wife gets so flippin' mad about chores you forget is that deep down inside she fears she is an unloveable bitch (she is not; this is a myth that she propogates in order to defend herself), so therefore she feels that she has to "do" a lot of things to prove she is worthy of love. So quite naturally, she assumes that when you forget to "do" things, you do not love her. The sad irony here is that her reaction to your forgotten chores is so extreme that she actually is making it more difficult for you to love her. Your secret and innermost fear is that you are a loser (you are not; this is a myth that you propogate in order to defend yourself). You express love by being sweet and open and inviting and respectful, by NOT being hyper-critical. Her freaking about things you've forgotten reinforces your fear (myth)and makes this situation untenable.

3. What can you do? Confess your fear to your wife, and hope she does the same. With some mutual understanding, she can see that you love her alot even if you forget to take out the trash. And you can see that her "doing" stuff is her way to express her love for you.

Stop trying to "save" your marriage and start telling your wife the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. Right now, you are too scared to be up front with her because you fear divorce (mainly becasue it would reinforce your fear of being a loser). Your wife can work on understanding that you express your love for her differently, and she needs to start expressing her "truth" more diplomatically in order to have a relationship.

If your wife does not work, then this process will be especially difficult for her, becausue she does not feel like being a stay-at-home mom (is she? I could not read all these posts. Too painful!) is "doing" enough. This reinforces her fear (myth).

4. If you go to counseling, you will spend thousands of dollars to uncover what I just told you for free.

I can't imagine what good advice you will get from a minister other than prayers (which can work).

Don't go to counseling alone. That's stupid.

You don't have ADD or whatever. That's stupid.

The key to your marriage is not you remembering to take out the trash. That's shallow and stupid.

5. Also, it would be helpful right now if you confessed to yourself that you and your wife made an extremely difficult choice when you got married. You can work it out, but only if both of you have the courage to tell each other about your innermost fear (myth) and NOT use it against each other. Stop doing stuff that provokes your wife's fear (myth). Assure her you love her in ways that are natural for you (hint: it doesn't involve "doing" things).

6. Again, stop fearing divorce. It might be best. It might not. But fearing it will cause you to act out of fear and not out of love. Acting out of fear will demoralize you and make you feel like more of a loser than you already do.

7. Ultimately, you will have to confront your fear of being a loser head-on, the sooner the better. You are not a loser, you just think you are, and whenever your wife is a bitch you grow ever more fearful.


231 posted on 12/20/2004 7:45:30 AM PST by no means yes ("There's no stoppin' the cretins from hoppin'.....")
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