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It appears that 5,200 years ago, something fairly catastrophic happened to Earth, but we don't know for sure what it was. Glaciologist Thompson suggests that it was a drastic drop in solar output followed by a surge in that output. He finds a modern analogy in the 'little ice age' lasting from 1450 A.D. to 1850 A.D. followed by our perceived recent global warming. But, of course, it's not clear that he's correct.

More data and better models, please!

1 posted on 12/17/2004 10:57:19 PM PST by snarks_when_bored
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2 posted on 12/17/2004 10:59:10 PM PST by MikefromOhio (23 days until I can leave Iraq and stop selling hotdogs in Baghdad....and boycotting boycotts)
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I must be nuts. I found myself cheering evidence coming in if knocks the self-satisfied smirks off the faces of the global warming idiots. I felt glad that it would soon be obvious to all that far, far more telling than the changes from human causes are the ones from natural causes. But if the coming changes are catastrophic, it hardly seems appropriate to be celebrating these finds.
5 posted on 12/17/2004 11:07:40 PM PST by NutCrackerBoy
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To: snarks_when_bored

Excellent article and still another that puts the lie to man-caused global warming. so much for the kyoto "make america a 3rd world country" accord, huh?


9 posted on 12/17/2004 11:12:20 PM PST by dzzrtrock ("A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." Sigmund Freud)
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Glaciologist Thompson suggests that it was a drastic drop in solar output followed by a surge in that output.

Well, that is a change coming from a Glaciologist...no contracts with NASA I would guess.

11 posted on 12/17/2004 11:37:38 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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12 posted on 12/17/2004 11:45:22 PM PST by farmfriend ( Congratulation. You are everything we've come to expect from years of government training.)
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Seventy percent of the population lives in the world’s tropics and major climate changes would directly impact most of them.

Flatly untrue. The true number is hard to come by, but is certainly less than 1/3 and is probably below 1/4. After all, China, India, Europe and the US are all entirely or almost entirely outside the tropics.

18 posted on 12/18/2004 2:17:58 AM PST by Restorer (Europe is heavily armed, but only with envy.)
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To: snarks_when_bored
The Bible suggests 4450 years ago (based on 6000 years of biblical time-line).


19 posted on 12/18/2004 2:51:53 AM PST by DirtyHarryY2K (Perversion is not a civil right.)
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To: snarks_when_bored

3200 BC is usually marked as the start of the bronze age.

So, clearly, the climatic changes were man made.


21 posted on 12/18/2004 3:23:57 AM PST by Lokibob (All typos and spelling errors are mine and copyrighted!!!!)
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To: snarks_when_bored

You want to look at some hard data, Stanford has some on line here:
http://www.stanford.edu/~meehan/donnellyr/paleo.html


22 posted on 12/18/2004 3:33:52 AM PST by Lokibob (All typos and spelling errors are mine and copyrighted!!!!)
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"But more importantly, they believe it has happened at least once before, and the results were nearly catastrophic to emerging cultures at the time."

Kinda reminds me of this data and model...

"In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened." Genesis 7:11

Something drastic happened then that changed the lifespans drastically and suddenly from Noah's 600+ years, down to Abraham's 120, or so. Something must have changed in the "firmament," also known as the "heavens" in those days... The timing would have been about 5200 years ago, as well!!!

25 posted on 12/18/2004 8:32:24 AM PST by SierraWasp (Ronald Reagan was an exceptional "celebrity!" Jesse Ventura & Arnold Schwarzenrenegger are NOT!!!)
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To: snarks_when_bored
It appears that 5,200 years ago, something fairly catastrophic happened to Earth...

We will survive this one too.

5.56mm

26 posted on 12/18/2004 8:35:14 AM PST by M Kehoe
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There isn't much to worry about, and, hey, what's that rumbling noise?
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31 posted on 12/18/2004 2:58:51 PM PST by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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To: snarks_when_bored

Seems this guy collected data from many different places that had the same results. Also, his time date is about the time that history pertaining to man started. All of this fits into a time frame of 500 years or so. He could be right.

The question is how quick did it take to get cold and how long did it take to get warm and of course which is the norm. The cold or the warm.

When North America was settled by the Europeans we had horrible Winters. It would snow waist deep in Virginia and so on. Prior to that, the Vikings could plant crops in places like Greenland. It is clear there can be drastic climate changes but the question is what brings them on. Meteors strikes would be my best guess. What we do to the climate with man induced events are like trying to bail the ocean out with a bucket.

I don't personally think we can prevent something like this from happening except maybe locally in a city or something. What we have to do is make plans to survive something like this and carry on with our lives.


36 posted on 12/18/2004 3:50:59 PM PST by U S Army EOD (John Kerry, the mother of all flip floppers.I)
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To: snarks_when_bored

If what happened 5200 years ago also happened 5200 years before that, I would take the pattern to heart. At present we have speculation.


38 posted on 12/18/2004 5:17:34 PM PST by -=Wing_0_Walker=-
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39 posted on 12/18/2004 7:06:26 PM PST by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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47 posted on 06/10/2006 6:57:38 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (All Moslems everywhere advocate murder, including mass murder, and they do it all the time.)
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Catastrophism

48 posted on 06/10/2006 6:57:57 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (All Moslems everywhere advocate murder, including mass murder, and they do it all the time.)
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