Posted on 12/04/2004 8:24:41 AM PST by TRY ONE
Anyone have Before/After Photos of Barry Bonds ---
One photo ~ 20 years ago when Barry was ~ 180 lbs with a hat size of ~ 7 1/2;
And a recent photo showing him ~ 260 lbs with a hat size of ~ 9 3/4;
amen...one of a plethora of reasons I watch very little sport anymore.....fakirs, thugs, no humility,. screw it.
Nor I. Unfortunately, he took it away from himself. Now all his prowess and accomplishments will be forever tainted. As I said, if he had never gone dirty, Bonds would have ended up in the HOF anyway, ranked as perhaps one of the 12 best outfielders of all time. He would be lauded as a great all-around player. Now he will be more known for having a huge question mark by his name.
Not only that but it is easier to take a fast ball in the body with all that extra muscle and body armor he wears so he can hang out over the plate and take the inside of the plate away from the pitcher
Tony Gwynn and Wade Boggs were great hitters, too. Would you have respect for them if they had juiced up and become prodigious home run hitters in their late 30's?
It's admirable to make the sacrifices entailed in training, working hard, taking care of yourself, and watching your diet. When you start to take drugs to alter your performance, giving you an unfair advantage, that's when you cross the line. Maybe Barry Bonds is a freak of nature, and just got stronger as he got older. Given the BALCO connection, I think the burden of proof has shifted to Barry to prove that he's clean.
On the plus side- Barry doesn't need to wear a jockstrap anymore.
" amen...one of a plethora of reasons I watch very little sport anymore.....fakirs, thugs, no humility,. screw it."
One of the big reasons that my favorite league is the NHL (IF they ever have the NHL again). You can't play hockey at that level with a "me-first" outlook. Plus, if you DID pull any of the chest-thumping, sack-dancing, cellphone-in-the-goalpost crap, soembody would cave your head in on the next shift.
The body armor on his right arm. This enables Bonds to literally "pad" his statistics. He can hang over the plate without fear, giving him another unfair advantage.
I think he started wearing that before there was a rule against it, and they "grandfathered" him in. Does anyone know the details on that?
Its pretty obvious that you've never played competitive sports. While "show biz" is part of the game, there is a certain talent required as well. Have you ever even tried to hit a 90 mph fastball?
Olympic athletes are so highly engineered that it also has little to do with natural ability.
Just because you don't qualify to compete doesn't mean you should insult those that do.
Your argument is bogus.
You haven't a clue as to what you're talking about.
See my post #71, which I was writing as you were posting.
FloJo had a dangerous heart arrythmia but an autopsy claims she died of a seizure due to brain lesion.
Walter Peyton (who was a wonderful gentleman the likes of which are very rare in pro sports today) died of bile duct cancer. Just badassed luck. No one has ever suspected sinister reasons for his death that I've heard of.
Mourning has kidney disease.
of course high dose roids can lead to health problems over time but i've seen no claims it killed these folks.
some folks just have bad luck early....i'm one of them.
"checks" and balances!
lite on the tadpoles too.
azoospermia they call it....it comes in handy for those nasty paternity suits.
One of us is confused, but I don't think it's me. Let's see if I can help. Professional sports are entertaining principally due to the high level of competition involved. Yes, there are other aspects that contribute to the entertainment value, such as cheerleaders, comfortable venues, player personalities, and so forth. But, without the core of high-level, fair competition, there is no basis for any of the peripherals. Just ask the XFL guys.
That is why there is so much concern over performance-enhancing drugs, and why there was so much concern over gambling with the Black sox through to Pete Rose. If people can't trust the integrity of the game, they won't come out.
You delude yourself to think otherwise.
"While "show biz" is part of the game, there is a certain talent required as well. Have you ever even tried to hit a 90 mph fastball?"
Of course there is tallent required. There is a certain "talent required" for all showbiz, be it a movie star or a news anchor. Doesn't change anything...
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