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Stripped of Ivana (Finally, Someone Too Tacky for Donald Trump)
The Edmonton Sun ^ | 12/3/04 | Steve Tilley

Posted on 12/03/2004 9:50:05 AM PST by gopwinsin04

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To: Tall_Texan
Unfortunately, the structure of The Apprentice doesn't allow the player to "regroup for another day" unless the PM is willing to blame one of their group for the loss. Trump left the door open for her to attack Kevin on pricing (and I think George wanted her to do that) but she didn't. If you don't want to be fired as the losing PM, you need to pick someone else to blame so they will get fired. Ivana couldn't accept that Jen wasn't an option and she wasn't willing to offer up one of the other two as a sacrifice.
141 posted on 12/03/2004 2:15:36 PM PST by Question_Assumptions
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To: gopwinsin04

I never watch that show, but I did pause on it while surfing and watched Ivana try and talk her way out of the situation. She was incredibly disrespectful and aggressive toward Donald. I thought Carolyn was going to come out of her chair and slap her.


142 posted on 12/03/2004 2:16:03 PM PST by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Pajama Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: SandyInSeattle
Ivana has serious trouble controlling her emotions. In an earlier episode, she talked about wrecking the Porche her parents gave her as a teenager. Make of that what you will.
143 posted on 12/03/2004 2:21:50 PM PST by Question_Assumptions
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To: Question_Assumptions
the Porche her parents gave her as a teenager

I think we might have just hit on the problem.

144 posted on 12/03/2004 3:12:43 PM PST by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Pajama Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: gopwinsin04

That's the problem, Carolyn is shouting down people and not letting them have their say. Lousy management style in my opinion.


145 posted on 12/03/2004 3:15:14 PM PST by BushisTheMan
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To: sonserae

This doesn't change the fact that women should be banned from the workplace.


146 posted on 12/03/2004 3:15:49 PM PST by Clemenza (Gabba Gabba Hey!)
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To: gopwinsin04
. . . happier still to watch Ivana take off her skirt and reveal her skimpy panties.

On FoxNews today, Ivana said they were short-shorts.

I've never watched the show and won't until the Donald gets rid of that croissant growing out of his head.

Michael M. Bates: My Side of the Swamp

147 posted on 12/03/2004 3:21:56 PM PST by Mike Bates (If you've been very, very good, Santa may leave a copy of my book under your tree.)
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To: BushisTheMan
You must be watching a different show. I've never heard Carolyn shout at anyone.

Ivana was interesting TV but a joke as a corporate exec. She seemed to think this was survivor and not a job interview. Even in TAXI interview at the end she spent all her time bad mouthing everyone.

Kelley will not win. They need a minority or a female and Kelley is too bland too overcome the handicap of being a WM.
148 posted on 12/03/2004 3:34:15 PM PST by rcocean
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To: rcocean

Did you miss the "Well, then fix it!" statement from ol' Carolyn. Plus getting herself a new hairdo and makeup hasn't helped her any. She's still a "yes" woman to a guy who is losing money in a casino business, for heaven sakes!



149 posted on 12/03/2004 3:43:40 PM PST by BushisTheMan
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To: Clemenza

You must live in Wisconsin. When I lived there, that was the consensus of all males I encountered.


150 posted on 12/03/2004 3:54:38 PM PST by sonserae
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To: BushisTheMan

Well, do work for someone?

If so, would you go on national TV and show him up or disagree with him all the time. Her job is to observe,give The Donald advice, and put in her two cents every once in a while.

She's not there to argue or grandstand. It's his show.


151 posted on 12/03/2004 4:13:15 PM PST by rcocean
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To: sonserae

Yep, ZERO male unemployment!


152 posted on 12/03/2004 4:14:14 PM PST by Clemenza (Gabba Gabba Hey!)
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To: WineGuy
Have you ever bought a candy bar for $20.00?

Did you not see the show? These were not "a candy" bars. These were hand selected, after hours of pre-selecting a SMALL run that might, possibly be fit for inspection. And then a good portion of THOSE - were thrown out! These were treated as if they were proof sets at the mint. This was not a production run. Don't you remember?

155 posted on 12/05/2004 7:32:21 AM PST by sevry
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To: BushisTheMan

I doubt Carolyn would ever actually shout anyone down in managing a golf course. It does make for great TV, though..


156 posted on 12/05/2004 9:32:03 AM PST by gopwinsin04
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To: the invisib1e hand
I was thinking Ivana might have been planning this ahead of time, who wears boy style 'underoos' to work everyday?

But, if she knew she was going to pull this little stunt-then she could have planned ahead to minimize her exposure on TV..

157 posted on 12/05/2004 9:35:06 AM PST by gopwinsin04
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To: sevry
As someone else said, the very premise of the show is a little - fuzzy.

The very premise of the show is to feed Trump's ego and get Trump publicity while making money for Trump. The contestants are merely stage props.

Not that there's anything wrong with that. Trump gets what he wants, the stage props get their 15 minutes of fame, Carolyn gets to write a book that sells and we get entertainment.

If any contestant winner stays in the Trump organization after their first year on the "job" they won, it will be in the role of a publicity novelty with Trump playing the part of the organ grinder.


158 posted on 12/05/2004 10:17:14 AM PST by Polybius
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To: WineGuy
Let's just call it a draw.

Look, as Ivana would say - I just think you're wrong. I agree with the others, here. The show has a very flimsy and incredible premise. Take a guy who ran a retail cigar website and have him build an 80 story skyscraper in downtown Chicago. Well, the guy has NO experience in construction, none as a general contractor, none as a financier, etc. Yet the building is being built, nonetheless. How is that possible. Is the man a figurehead?

And if so - why? To what purpose. Again, I agree with others who also suggest that the show is merely a promotional vehicle both for the 'Trumpname' and for those like Mars and Pepsi which are attempting to hype their own products. The apprentices, so-called, are merely backdrop; extras in their own show. If in order to promote Denver-mint quality candy bars, never to be seen again, they have to send these Harvawd MBA's out into the street to hustle the bars, one by one, then they'll do just that. If it makes 'em drop 'trou', then so much the better for the ratings - correct? The show is misnamed. They're clowns in Trump's circus.

160 posted on 12/05/2004 9:07:23 PM PST by sevry
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