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AMERICA - The Right Way!! (Day 1395) [Remember the Trade Center!!]
Various News Sources and FReepers | November 15, 2004 | All of Us

Posted on 11/15/2004 4:43:32 AM PST by Chairman_December_19th_Society

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To: Miss Marple; Iowa Granny
The ones I WANT to leave are still there, ie: Ann Veneman

A view shared by many in the ag industries. She hasn't been nearly strong enough in defending us against foreign govt. demands, she caved in and caved early. Unfortunately I believe she wants to stay.

Prairie

41 posted on 11/15/2004 6:50:26 AM PST by prairiebreeze (George W Bush: Spending well-earned political capital.)
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To: Chairman_December_19th_Society

Your opening statement is always very good, but today's opening is SUPERB!!!!!


42 posted on 11/15/2004 6:54:51 AM PST by bevlar (NEVER corner something meaner than you are!!!)
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To: Miss Marple; ohioWfan; Iowa Granny
I thought that it was SOP for all members of the Cabinet and other positions that serve at the President's pleasure to resign going into a second term. And that such positions are so demanding that it is not surprising if people want to leave after 4 years and try to resume their lives.

It was always my understanding that the resignations were a formality and that behind the scenes it was made known which ones were sincere; only those would actually be accepted.

I am in the small minority on FR that have felt that Colin Powell has done an outstanding job. I think most people simply don't understand the function of the office, just as they don't understand the function of the Senate Majority Leader position. Anyone who is put in either of those offices will behave in ways that will displease many on FR. Neither position is intended to be "Chief Head Knocker" but involves diplomatic and conciliatory efforts.

43 posted on 11/15/2004 6:54:52 AM PST by kayak (Have you prayed for your President today?)
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To: kayak
I am in the small minority on FR that have felt that Colin Powell has done an outstanding job. I think most people simply don't understand the function of the office

I'm in that minority with you, Kay. He has done remarkable things under horrific circumstances. He has been a complete team player, and I have nothing but respect for him.

He has served his nation well.

In addition, I agree that those who despise him don't understand the role of SoS. He has done it very well in what, arguably, is the most difficult time in American history.

44 posted on 11/15/2004 7:03:08 AM PST by ohioWfan (W.........STILL the President!!)
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To: kayak
Neither position is intended to be "Chief Head Knocker" but involves diplomatic and conciliatory efforts.

I agree, most of the time. I view these positions as the individual who is suppose to extend their hand and seek resolution to problems.

It's just that many times they 'give' too much, too soon, in order to get things done. Sometimes I think they should just draw a line in the sand, dig their heels in and go to the press with the compromise. The problem is the press. They refuse to air our side.

45 posted on 11/15/2004 7:05:33 AM PST by Iowa Granny
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To: Miss Marple
If you consider that he entered the job reluctantly as a service to the country and has been faced with an incredibly stressful world situation, it's not surprising that he has 'burned out.'

About the media.........I think I'll be turning the TV off for the next couple of days until this dies down.

These talking heads make me crazy!

46 posted on 11/15/2004 7:06:01 AM PST by ohioWfan (W.........STILL the President!!)
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To: kayak

And I forgot to add: I thought the entire cabinent was expected to offer their resignations, too, at the end of the term.

I guess we were wrong.


47 posted on 11/15/2004 7:07:31 AM PST by Iowa Granny
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To: ohioWfan
I think I'll be turning the TV off for the next couple

Same here. I'm headed to HGTV. When they start painting the woodwork black, I'll switch to the cowboy channel.

48 posted on 11/15/2004 7:09:08 AM PST by Iowa Granny
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To: Iowa Granny
LOL! I go to Turner Classics myself.

A good MGM musical from the '30's is great therapy for talking head overdose. :o)

49 posted on 11/15/2004 7:18:49 AM PST by ohioWfan (W.........STILL the President!!)
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To: Iowa Granny

btw........Venneman's leaving too.


50 posted on 11/15/2004 7:19:32 AM PST by ohioWfan (W.........STILL the President!!)
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To: Iowa Granny
The problem is the press.

You know I'm in full agreement with you there ... LOL!

I suspect that all of them have tendered their resignations but the administration, anticipating the headlines in the media if that were announced, is wisely letting the word out in dribbles about the ones that are actually accepted.

While I'm ranting ~~~

... I also get tired of FReepers saying "Rudy would be great ..." or "Let's draft Condi ... " and other similar statements. Those people (and many others) have done a grand job in their positions ... but that doesn't mean they would do as well in all positions.

The talents and skills needed to do the job that Condi has done are not the same as those of the more political and public positions, up to and including the presidency. If she were to run, I would be overjoyed ... but I really don't see it happening.

Rudy was magnificent as mayor of NYC, even before 9/11 but particularly afterwards. But I don't want him as president. Though he's probably about as conservative a person as could be elected in NYC, he's too liberal for the nation as a whole.

More people need to read The Peter Principle and get an understanding that just because one excells in one area that doesn't mean that their capabilities extend to all areas of expertise.

And, now, sadly, playtime is over for me for a while. Need to start dealing with the problems of the day at the office ... and they are considerable ... *sigh*

51 posted on 11/15/2004 7:21:26 AM PST by kayak (Have you prayed for your President today?)
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To: Molly Pitcher

LOL, because we're having our Thanksgiving Day a week early, the boys have begun putting up the main Christmas tree in the living room. They want to put up the stuff for the front door. We've always lit the tree on Thanksgiving day. My living rooms is strewn with decorations at the moment.

Good Morning All. Beautiful day in central texas.

bev, we live in a tiny, tiny town about 140 miles north of Houston. It's a place called Marlin. Our weather is different than Houston's.


52 posted on 11/15/2004 7:26:33 AM PST by tillacum (It is the military personnel who keep FREEDOM ringing.)
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To: ohioWfan; prairiebreeze

I just heard FNC comment about Vennaman leaving from the TV in the kitchen as I passed thru.

Now,,,, who will replace her?

If you can believe the Ag SubCulture, Iowa is entitled to ONE high level appointment within USDA. 'Our' appt. couldn't get himself confirmed last time around, so we didn't have anyone in 'the cage'.

I have a friend in the Iowa Senate who is drooling, hoping for 'the call'. He certainly isn't strong enough, IMHO, to serve as SoA. But he's certainly an excellent sandbagger,,, if that's what they're looking for,,, he might be their guy.


53 posted on 11/15/2004 7:34:50 AM PST by Iowa Granny
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To: Iowa Granny

I read somewhere on FR that it was only Nixon who wanted resignations from all cabinet members so he could decide who to accept them from. And that it isn't SOP.

Prairie


54 posted on 11/15/2004 7:36:20 AM PST by prairiebreeze (George W Bush: Spending well-earned political capital.)
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To: Iowa Granny; ohioWfan

Thanks for the info on Veneman. I IM'd my "industry sources" (heh!) who say they are also hearing scuttlebutt. Will keep my ear to the ground and pass along any info/credible speculation I hear as to replacement.

Any theories?

Prairie


55 posted on 11/15/2004 7:39:07 AM PST by prairiebreeze (George W Bush: Spending well-earned political capital.)
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To: Iowa Granny

Just read your comments on replacements.


56 posted on 11/15/2004 7:40:37 AM PST by prairiebreeze (George W Bush: Spending well-earned political capital.)
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To: prairiebreeze

Good thought. I will put a call in to the folks I know in DC, see who they're thinking will replace her.

We can compare notes tonite,,, if they reply to us.


57 posted on 11/15/2004 7:46:08 AM PST by Iowa Granny
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To: prairiebreeze

Mass messages sent out seeking info. Will report back when I hear.


58 posted on 11/15/2004 7:50:54 AM PST by Iowa Granny
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To: Chairman_December_19th_Society

Hi Chair and All! Chair, since you're in No. Virginia you may be aware of the funding raising effort by WMAL, our flagship talk station here in the Wash. DC area. They are raising money for Fischer House, a "Ronald McDonald" like set-up for the families of service members who have been wounded and getting treatment at Walter Reed or Bethesda Naval hospital. Most of these families can't afford the airline tickets or hotel stays to be with their loved one while undergoing treatment. And, it's such a blessing and a boost to our service men and women to have their family with them. Apparently the DoD only flys in family if the serviceman or woman is is "serious" condition - - but the DoD bureaucracy usually determines that if one of our poor military personnel has a hand or foot blown off, that's not "serious" enough to warrant paying for the family to come in. Hence, this is where the Fisher House comes in. Good charity. They're looking to raise $500,000 by the end of the year and have raised around $200K so far. May want to check out the station's web site and click on the line for Fisher House. http://www.wmal.com/

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59 posted on 11/15/2004 8:02:57 AM PST by duckbutt ( Warning: Dates in calendar are closer than they appear)
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To: Iowa Granny; prairiebreeze
I'll be interested in your report, Granny.

There won't be much info on the news. It's all about Powell.

60 posted on 11/15/2004 8:04:56 AM PST by ohioWfan (W.........STILL the President!!)
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