I mean to add that there were 3 threads at one time that Zell was coming up on Imus or I wouldn't have known either. I could listen to Zell all day long.
And speaking of Democrats who support the president, my b-i-l's best friend is a dedicated Democrat who voted for Bush because "he is the best president we've ever had".
My husband's aunt is in her 80's and always voted the straight Democrat ticket. She voted for Bush this year.
Good for her. My mom has voted in the past RAT, but this year didn't vote at all.