To: Veto!
Wow!! What can I say but way to go Sandy and Jen! This has got too hurt for Kelly, Kevin, and Ivana to get beat not only by just two people but by double the amount you sold and they had more candy bars to boot. OUCH!!! And losing to Jen and Sandy at that has to be like salt in the wound for them after all the trash talking they did about them. When they do the Where are they now show I can picture Ivana wearing a blond wig with red lipstick smeared around her mouth drooling in a white room with a red crayon writing over and over on all the walls I HATE JEN!!!
I dont want to sound like a broken record but Ivana screwed the pooch from the get go before Andy, Sandy, and Jen went into the boardroom. Ivana blew it by going to Andy and trying to get him to go after Jen. This only strengthens Jens resolve to be a team player and beat Ivana. She didnt think about the bigger picture in the long run that Jen would come back from the boardroom. A very super stupe move on her part by making Jen an even bigger enemy at this juncture of the game. Then to add insult to injury she was too fixated on Jen causing her to underestimate the other team and make rash decisions. She made assumptions that Sandy and Jen would not be up to task because of some stupid notion that they are two dimwitted blondes. This is where stereotyping gets people in serious trouble. She is most obviously not a student of Sun Tzu and completely unprofessional.
Kevin and Ivana didnt believe in themselves as sales people or the product for that matter when he and she came to an agreement that there was no way they could get five bucks for a candy bar. This was reinforced in the boardroom when Kevin said he didnt see they could sell a product for more than 2 dollars that would only retail for 50cents to a dollar. Hello? Ask Jen and Sandy about that. Obviously Ivana and Kevin missed the Trump Ice episode with Troy and the Art Gallery episode with Nick. Troy and Nick won in those two tasks not only because they had a good strategy but mostly due to the fact that they believed in themselves and in the product that they were selling. Sandy and Jen believed in themselves as sales people and they believe in the product they were selling. That is why they could go out there and sell candy bars at $5.00 a pop. They had a game plan they were the M&M girls. Sandy showed leadership ability by seeing that with only two people on the team it was more important to produce as many quality candy bars on the first try as opposed to quantity of candy bars and hope for a bunch of good ones. She recognized the need for the Mars M&M promotional van to help get them around and make them more legit. They dressed nice but not slutty. They had the yellow, red, and blue M&M color scheme going for them. So to say they sold only sex appeal is a pretty lame excuse for Ivana.
Ivana had her ultimate blond moment with the dropping the skirt thing which was extra stupid. As I said before Ivana is for more blond than Jen will every be using Ivana's criteria for dumb. She forgot about one the first rules of selling and marketing which is to ask ones self would my client, in this case Mars M&M, want their product to be promoted in this fashion. Duhh!! Not in million years. But the most pathetic thing for Ivana was in boardroom she was still whining about Jen. She should have got the Elizabeth treatment and been fired without a second boardroom.
As for Kelly he played it safe and let the others battle it out. I cant wait to see how the Final Four do in their interviews. I did not mean to write an essay. I usually wait and watch the extended versions before I post but with Ivana and Kevin's actions this week I didn't see any point in it.
119 posted on
12/02/2004 11:35:16 PM PST by
Captain Beyond
(The Hammer of the gods! (Just a cool line from a Led Zep song))
To: Captain Beyond
Good analysis. I also thought it was a very smart move for them to use the van. The 3 losers didn't do much to attract attention to themselves, 3 baseball hats with M&M's on it, big deal. They could have dressed in red, green and yellow and stood out a little more, they also could have either thought to ask for a van or made sandwich boards out of some posters. I still think Trump will have some doubts about Kelly after his "price wasn't important" remark.
I think Kevin and Jen are sharp and unflustered enough to handle the interviews the best.
To: Captain Beyond; MomwithHope; mystery-ak
Obviously Ivana and Kevin missed the Trump Ice episode with Troy and the Art Gallery episode with Nick. Troy and Nick were wonderful, natural salesmen. Terrific personalities. I miss them! No one on this Apprentice has half their moxie.
As much as I enjoyed watching Ivana, I never saw her as a winner, and last night she richly deserved the boot.
I've thought for weeks that the game is Kelly's to lose. He moved closer to a loss last night, didn't work very hard at sales, and was a total idiot in the boardroom.
Meanwhile, Jen is moving up. She'll definitely make it to the final two. Kelly has had more success, but she's playing a very good and perhaps better game. If this were a brain-power contest, she'd win it hands down. But it's not.
Kevin is good in many ways, Sandy too. But I don't see either of them in the final competition. The upcoming interviews will knock them down. Kelly and Jen will make it to the finals, IMHO, and Jen may take it all.
Remember, this time the prize is a "job with Trump," not "running a Trump company." Big difference. I wonder why. Perhaps the producers thought that having less powerful contestants than last time would attract a larger audience. If so, they were wrong.
Meanwhile, Bill Rancic is looking good and doing well. A very high-powered guy. No one in the current crop gets close to the constellation of executive qualities he has.
122 posted on
12/03/2004 7:30:12 AM PST by
Veto!
(Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
To: Captain Beyond
Ivanna's gimmick backfired on her. One could tell by the look on Carolyn's face that The Donald would not approve of it. Knew right then Ivanna would be fired. You could tell Ivanna was trying to cover her butt, so to speak, in the boardroom. She much too defensive.
130 posted on
12/03/2004 2:42:55 PM PST by
tob2
(Old fossil and proud of it.)
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