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The Guild 9-4-2004 Convention Redux

Posted on 09/04/2004 4:32:14 AM PDT by BigWaveBetty

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I finally got around to finishing that New Yorker profile of Al Gore (what a day! I almost put my fist through the computer monitor, but I digress). Oh my gosh! What a disgusting excuse for a human being this man is. For example, his comments about Bush and generalizations about Christians:

.... Gore’s mouth tightened. A Southern Baptist, he, too, had declared himself born again, but he clearly had disdain for Bush’s public kind of faith.

“It’s a particular kind of religiosity,” he said. “It’s the American version of the same fundamentalist impulse that we see in Saudi Arabia, in Kashmir, in religions around the world: Hindu, Jewish, Christian, Muslim. They all have certain features in common. In a world of disconcerting change, when large and complex forces threaten familiar and comfortable guideposts, the natural impulse is to grab hold of the tree trunk that seems to have the deepest roots and hold on for dear life and never question the possibility that it’s not going to be the source of your salvation. And the deepest roots are in philosophical and religious traditions that go way back. You don’t hear very much from them about the Sermon on the Mount, you don’t hear very much about the teachings of Jesus on giving to the poor, or the beatitudes. It’s the vengeance, the brimstone.” ...

We passed the Southern Baptist Convention building. Earlier in the day, Gore had made a point of telling me that he and Clinton used to pray together in the White House. I asked him which church in Nashville he and Tipper attended now.

There was a pause in the front seat.

“We’re ecumenical now,” Gore said, finally.

Tipper said with a laugh, “I think I follow Baba Ram Dass.”

“The influx of fundamentalist preachers have pretty much chased us out with their right-wing politics,” Gore added.

201 posted on 09/09/2004 5:23:19 PM PDT by mountaineer
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To: mountaineer

The writer said, "I asked him which church in Nashville he and Tipper attended now." I interpreted their answer as an embarrassed pause because they no longer go to church (now that it doesn't serve their political image.) Did you take it that way?


I loved all the references to the servant. Every time they went back to the house, the servant was putting food in front of Big Al.


202 posted on 09/09/2004 5:29:41 PM PDT by Timeout (My name is Timeout....and I'm a blogaholic)
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To: mountaineer
Speaking of ecumenical...


203 posted on 09/09/2004 7:00:38 PM PDT by They'reGone2000 (And we hope they're not coming back!)
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To: They'reGone2000
Is he going for the Abe Lincoln look now?


204 posted on 09/09/2004 7:20:47 PM PDT by They'reGone2000 (And we hope they're not coming back!)
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No, I believe that may have been taken right after all the blook drained out of him when he found out they'd been caught red-handed giving forged documents to CBS.


205 posted on 09/09/2004 10:00:48 PM PDT by Timeout (My name is Timeout....and I'm a blogaholic)
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This whole thing just reminds me of a Jr. Hi prank.


206 posted on 09/10/2004 3:38:05 AM PDT by Iowa Granny (Impersonating June Cleaver since 1967)
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To: Timeout
embarrassed pause because they no longer go to church (now that it doesn't serve their political image.)

That's exactly how I interpreted it. The Gores' "Christian faith" might be seen as no less superficial than - and just as much a political prop as - the Clintons'

207 posted on 09/10/2004 4:48:06 AM PDT by mountaineer
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Every time they went back to the house, the servant was putting food in front of Big Al.

You're right, that part was amusing. (That, and the fact that Al wouldn't pour his own cup of coffee at breakfast. Oh, boy! More coffee, boy!) BigGayAl eats with gusto now, according to the article, because he doesn't have to worry about looking svelte for the TV cameras, or some such nonsense. Lamb chops and seasoned greens for lunch, let's dig in!

Al was in Pittsburgh yesterday, bashing Bush for the entertainment of various braindead union folk, and he certainly didn't seem to care too much about his appearance, from what I saw on TV news. His thinning hair seemed to have been combed with a wet paper towel, he was pudgy and looked uncomfortable, like his pants were too tight around the waist.


Gore in Pittsburgh: Declaring it "sleazy and despicable," Al Gore yesterday attacked Vice President Dick Cheney's remark that "the wrong choice" by voters could result in another terrorist attack. ... Gore frequently referred to Cheney as "Halliburton." full story

208 posted on 09/10/2004 5:04:07 AM PDT by mountaineer
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To: Timeout

I say the Bush team should of hired you loooooong ago!


209 posted on 09/10/2004 5:25:30 AM PDT by BigWaveBetty ( Psychiatrists describe Kerry's thought process as 'magical thinking.')
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When you have time, go back to my post 195 and watch the new Evan Coyle Maloney video. He eviscerates academia with his deadpan interviews. He's a hoot!


210 posted on 09/10/2004 5:45:13 AM PDT by Timeout (My name is Timeout....and I'm a blogaholic)
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I want to read the New Yorker piece on Whackjob Al but I'm, I'm afraid!!! I'm already in a bad mood from these dang hurricanes, Whackjob Al might just send me over the edge. I'll try reading it later, perhaps I'll dust off that bottle of Cuervo Gold, knock back a few and then give it a go.

Pictures from Kristen Gore's book party...

Kristen and dad

New York Social Diary also tries to portray our favorite whackjob as svelte! Oy vey!

There were also several members of the author’s family including her mom and dad, known to the world as Tipper and Al Gore, and Ashley Schiff, whose brother Drew is married to Kristen’s sister Karenna. Mrs. Gore, looking svelter than the world saw four years ago, also now looks young enough to be her daughter’s contemporary. The former Vice President too was looking like he’d shed years from his brow.

Editor Lieve introduced the author by telling us how she’d read the book in manuscript form one night standing up in her kitchen (Glamour ended up serializing it), and that it was what her grandmother used to call “a Bronx book” – you “started reading it on the train in the Manhattan and the next time you looked up you were in the Bronx.” Ms. Gore, taking the mike explained that she took up writing as a vocation because she thought it meant she’d never have to “give a speech,” all so not true now that she’s begun hawking her novel.

There were a lot of people in the room who’d already read the book, all thumbs up. the project was the brainchild of producer/impresario Harvey Weinstein who set it up simultaneously for Miramax Books and Miramax Films. Ms. Gore is writing the screenplay also. [Oh goodie!] Congrats and kudos for Kristen Gore and Miramax.

FreakshowLink

Just thinking about that meaty mitt of al's touching me makes my skin crawl.

When you have time, go back to my post 195 and watch the new Evan Coyle Maloney video.

My next stop! :-)

211 posted on 09/10/2004 5:58:02 AM PDT by BigWaveBetty ( Psychiatrists describe Kerry's thought process as 'magical thinking.')
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Warning: that video is 45 minutes long. But worth every minute!

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Is Tipper's hairdo not the most juvenile you've ever seen on a woman that age?!


212 posted on 09/10/2004 6:08:19 AM PDT by Timeout (My name is Timeout....and I'm a blogaholic)
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Yep, the Tippster's hair is a bit youngish for her age. But she's got a young face or maybe that's the weight, giving her a "baby face". We should submit her name to Oprah for one of those make over shows.

I've been struggling with what to do with my mop, at my age I think it's too long also and too much up keep and too hot during summer. I'm leaning heavily toward a Laura Bush cut.

Laura seems to have the same thickness and texture as my hair so it might work. Now I just have to get up the nerve.

Someone else who needs a haircut, among a myriad of other things...

That video, Brainwashing 101 is outstanding. I sent it out to everyone I know. :-)

I'll be gone for most of the rest of this day to prepare for Ivan. We are going to pick up FIL tomorrow and bring him here just in case, so lots to do. I'll start a new thread later tonight or first thing in the morning. If another Guilder would like to start the next one, have at it! Back asap.

213 posted on 09/10/2004 7:29:18 AM PDT by BigWaveBetty ( Psychiatrists describe Kerry's thought process as 'magical thinking.')
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What do you expect of a woman with a drum set? Groovy, baby.


214 posted on 09/10/2004 7:30:53 AM PDT by mountaineer
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Journalism ethics/legal question:
If the CBS documents are indeed fakes, does that release CBS from any agreement not to reveal the source who gave them the forgeries?

There has been much speculation as to who might have prepared such stupidly transparent forgeries. I think the old shiboleth, "The simplest answer is probably the right answer", probably applies here.

They were prepared by some 20-something nerd who had NO CONCEPT of a world that existed prior to Microsoft Word and other word processing tools. Only such a person would have been unskeptical of the raised "superscript" th's and st's in the memos. Only a person totally unfamiliar with typewriters would have been oblivious to the fact that old technology didn't perfectly line up margins, centering, etc. In this self-centered fool's mind, the ONLY technology is the one he's used all his young life.

It will now be interesting to sit back and see how much pressure other media outlets apply to CBS to reveal everything about their "news gathering" process. I think I'll go pop the popcorn!


215 posted on 09/10/2004 7:56:38 AM PDT by Timeout (My name is Timeout....and I'm a blogaholic)
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Maybe they were created by that 20-something website whiz working for Kerry who also does the moveon.org stuff - his name escapes me at the moment. I should think that if CBS was told by their source these are authentic documents, and they have proven to be fakes, the network has no obligation to honor any agreement not to reveal the source, who committed a fraud. Of course, that assumes CBS is innocent. Considering Dan Rather was forcing this story down everyone's throat, I wouldn't be surprised if he knew they were phony, but he's so obsessed and irrational, he truly believed no one would notice.

Gotta run - I'm supposed to man the GOP booth at the county fair, even though the fellow who recruited me hasn't bothered to tell me where to go or where to find the materials I'm supposed to be handing out.

216 posted on 09/10/2004 8:03:01 AM PDT by mountaineer
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A more-fun question:

The commentary shows have spent HOURS blasting Bush's Guard service based on these apparently forged documents. They would certainly owe their viewers---and the president--an apology.

But the really fun question is: Would they have to re-evaluate all the miles of footage they've spent skewering Bush for the "16 words in his State of the Union speech"? Words that, according to the partisan media, were based on ---gasp!--forged documents? Tee hee!


217 posted on 09/10/2004 8:17:48 AM PDT by Timeout (My name is Timeout....and I'm a blogaholic)
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I thought they came from papers released by the White House? I heard that from Fox interviewing someone yesterday but it was in passing and it could have been a dim shill, for all I know.


218 posted on 09/10/2004 8:25:00 AM PDT by Endeavor
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After the CBS story ran, some reporters asked the white house if they had the documents. The WH simply gave them copies of what CBS had faxed out. The copies still had CBS's fax line on the top.

These forged papers were not allegedly part of any official files. CBS said they came from Col. Killian's "personal secret files".


219 posted on 09/10/2004 9:37:37 AM PDT by Timeout (My name is Timeout....and I'm a blogaholic)
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Headlines such as "Authenticity of new Bush military papers questioned" (USA Today) really gripe me.

To non-news addicts (there are some out there!) this headline reflects badly on the Bush team.

220 posted on 09/10/2004 9:53:24 AM PDT by They'reGone2000 (And we hope they're not coming back!)
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