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Posted on 06/26/2004 8:07:15 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
posting the words without the music is annoying to me. Many churches have begun posting the hymns in the bulletin or on screen, but to save space, they don't put in the music. ARGH! I realize that average joe schmo doesn't read music, but I think there are still those who do that want to see the notes in order to get the meldoy.
my 2 cents
Majesty....that is just the word.
Must be why you're the writer!
Hmmm... "cowboy American." That's sorta what I was tryin' to think of for Venezuelan stuff.
I don't know how they manage it, but Spanish-type quisines can somehow manage to do steaks like nobody's business. They are just the absolute BEST!! I've tried to do it... but mine never come out right. I am convinced it's an ethnic thing. Like it takes a Texan to *really* make a chicken fried steak right!
Hmm, bitty girl and PE are snoozing, elf-boy is off watching FOTR, and I think it's snacktime! I am gonna join elf-boy.
I feel the same way...I noticed when I was very young that the position of the notes corresponded with the music...
I'm just beatin' a dead horse, though...
I like the words on the screen. Leaves my hands free to praise and worship the Lord. And dance when the Spirit moves me. Can't do that with a chunky book in your hands.
But, that's my style. Each to his own. 't's why we got different churches. :-)
See you later! Nice to get a chance to chat with ya!
Take this hymn, which I know off the top of my head:
Immortal, invisible, God only wise, in light inaccessible hid from our eyes/ most blessed, most glorious, the Ancient of Days, Almighty, victorious, Thy great Name we praise.
And compare with any praise chorus you like. One can be fun to sing, and you can dress it up; but the other has some good solid meat on its bones. A church should at least mix in the old songs, I think.
Right. Being Presbyterian, we don't do much dancing. And you can raise a hand, at least; most of the time, I balance the book on the back of the pew, or hold half with a sibling.
Plus I like the option of dropping to the alto line, if the song's too high for me.
Well, certainly if you go to a church that has the words on the screen and that's what you like about it, that's great...but how would you feel if over a relatively short amount of time, they changed it so that you had to have a hymnal to sing?
Well, that's what has happened with my denomination, but just in reverse...I attended a type of churh that even has it's OWN hymnal...loved the old hymns we sang out of it and then over the last few years they have almost abandoned it.
It's discouraging.
Well, I am not one to read music so I'm out of my element there. That's a big difference. If I could do that I might want to.
But, to truly worship I want look to the heavens with both my arms raised acknowledging the glory and majesty of God. I usually know all the words to the songs and hymns and only watch the screen when it's something new. And I find that for me, my spirit really doesn't raise into worship as much when I'm not physically looking and reaching to the heavens.
But, of course, I'm doing that in a church where the most everybody else is doing that too so it's not a public spectacle or anything.
I think you ladies might enjoy hearing about something that happened to me this morning.
We got to church and found our pew empty - sometimes in the summer, it's not, and we have to scramble - and all got seated. I opened the bulletin and discovered we had a guest preacher, our pastor's brother. The pastor was away with a church group this week. As I did this, I suddenly developed a severe case of hiccups. I tried everything I could think of, without leaving my seat since the service was about to start, to no avail.
Then the guest-speaker came and sat down right in front of me. I'd never seen the pastor's brother (not this one, at least, he's got a lot) before, but it was obvious who he was. And service is about to start, and I know as soon as the conversations stop, my hiccups will be loud and possibly distracting to others. Not to mention, I can't concentrate on anything else...
So the organist starts playing and it's time to get ready for worship. Usually I just bow my head and pray that I have the right attitude. Today I desperately asked that the hiccups stop. They were making me so miserable...
And they did! I didn't have a single hiccup, after that prayer! Coincidence? Or Someone having pity on an embarrassed and self-conscious girl...
Well, even Celeste has told me I need to get over it. LOL
I have switched back and forth between hymnals and screens at various churches. I still visit churches, when I visit other folks, who use hymnals. It doesn't bother me. I'm only saying that for me to worship closest to God, my preference is not to be fumbling pages and holding a hymnal. I don't think either one is right for everyone. Everybody worships differently in all things in life.
Yep! Different strokes, different folks. I find it uncomfortable to be very demonstrative in worship. I am most worshipful, when I'm most humble, and for me that involves posture. Keeping my head slightly bowed, like wearing my hat, reminds me to be less proud. And I do get proud in church! I'm fond of my voice and I sometimes try to show off...
Also for me, if other people are too active, that can be distracting. I've been to college Bible studies where some of the girls will practically throw themselves to the ground, or they've got their faces screwed up in anguish. For them, that's worship. I have to work very hard not to be pulled out of my worship by them. Not their fault, of course! But I'm weak in that area, so a liturgical, hymn-singing church speaks to my soul.
Heh!!! I love that Jen!! Shows how God works and knows our hearts in the most intricate of ways. I love those things that often seem insignificant in the grand scheme of life! :-)
Once, while the congregation was singing Now, let the poor say "I am Rich", let the weak say "I am strong" because of what the Lord has done for me I started praying and actually cried, with tears running down my face, saying "Lord, I'm all the time praying for others and I never ask for anything for myself...but now I'm asking...can't I please have another little boy?"
Unknown to me, I was already expecting Joshua.
Well, I dunno 2J. If your church is one that is not demonstrative like mine I can see the logic of using a hymnal. There has to be a place for all of us Christians to celebrate and worship God in the *best* manner for us.
But, if this is the church where you are... and the decision has been made... and you can't change it ... then maybe you just need to worship as best you can. I guess I'm saying - don't let the issue come between you and your time of closeness to God.
And I'm saying that cause sometimes when things tick me off about church, I find that instead of having my time with God - I'm all off in my head railing about something somebody said or did. And I am the one that loses out cause I miss my time in worship that I love. And I think God misses me too. :-)
You could be Celeste talkin', sis!!! That is exactly what she said. I mean almost word for word.
I've considered approaching the music guy and asking if they couldn't just put the page numbers up on the screen too...that would be great. But really, otherwise, I need to not focus on it...and I try not to during the service...
Exactly. I think that's why denominational differences are good. If I visited your church I surely would not worship as I do in my church. Which is why mine and your home church *should* be different.
I would not be bothered in the least by the posture you describe as distracting to you. I am comfortable in that atmosphere and when the Spirit moves, worshiping like that. But, I always hate to do it when I know someone is with me who is not comfortable with those things. Therefore, that distracts me from my worship too.
God knows this stuff about us. He made us different this way. And despite all the denominational differences and battles in the church - this is a God-given difference in people. We should respect that as His gift and enjoy our own places! :-)
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