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Posted on 06/01/2004 9:35:59 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog

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To: Bear_in_RoseBear

"I had a moment like that a few years back, riding in a van through Dallas. The person driving was circling around, trying to find a particular hotel, when he turned left onto another street... as I was looking out the window it suddenly occured to me why everything looked so familiar: we were accidentally following the same route the Kennedy motorcade took in 1963..."

Whoah! That's a trip.


3,941 posted on 06/11/2004 11:32:47 AM PDT by Fedora (Smeagol-Gollum 2004: "We can be our own VP, my Precious")
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To: Corin Stormhands

I guess I can see that... at least, "stand by your man" ideology. But, ew. That must have been a lesser-of-two-evils campaign.

Did I tell you, I nearly decked a liberal this week? Stupid moron ex-hippy loser guy at the client site practically euphoric over Reagan's death. I kept thinking about getting his address and havin' a couple dwarves show up and take out the trash...


3,942 posted on 06/11/2004 11:33:10 AM PDT by JenB
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To: JenB
Morgoth is someone in the past... some great evil

Morgoth being the Dark Lord of the First Age who's defeat set in place the conditions that eventually brought Sauron to power... I don't know that the U.S. has had a "Morgoth". Some might nominate FDR or even Lincoln, though... (I wouldn't!)

3,943 posted on 06/11/2004 11:33:53 AM PDT by Bear_in_RoseBear
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To: Fedora

No, it's an upside-down car full of water, frozen in carbonite. :-)


3,944 posted on 06/11/2004 11:33:54 AM PDT by JenB
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To: JenB
That must have been a lesser-of-two-evils campaign.

Which campaign?

3,945 posted on 06/11/2004 11:34:37 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (Ronald Reagan on DU: "There's got to be a pony in there somewhere...")
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To: Bear_in_RoseBear

FDR might work. Lincoln... let's not get into arguments; he did some things that were pretty clearly unconstitutional, but we're still a country, so...


3,946 posted on 06/11/2004 11:35:38 AM PDT by JenB
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To: Corin Stormhands

Any campaign where you vote for Nixon!


3,947 posted on 06/11/2004 11:36:22 AM PDT by JenB
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To: Corin Stormhands; JenB

Kinda cool you campagined for Goldwater, Corin :) What I've picked up from history books is that Nixon wasn't as conservative as Goldwater, but at the same time he still wasn't as liberal as someone like Nelson Rockefeller, so he was sort of a mediator between the Goldwater and Rockefeller wings of the party. Is that how he was perceived at the time, Corin?


3,948 posted on 06/11/2004 11:36:59 AM PDT by Fedora (Smeagol-Gollum 2004: "We can be our own VP, my Precious")
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To: proud_2_B_texasgal

LOL! You know I've actually seen a picture of Bill Clinton walking in front of a movie marquee playing "The Omen" c. 1976--creepy.


3,949 posted on 06/11/2004 11:38:36 AM PDT by Fedora (Smeagol-Gollum 2004: "We can be our own VP, my Precious")
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To: JenB
No, you gotta remember the era and the times. Watergate happened during the 72 campaign and the worst of that didn't come until after the election.

Don't forget Nixon ran against Hubert Humphrey and George McGovern. Don't judge Nixon on the basis of Watergate alone.

3,950 posted on 06/11/2004 11:39:07 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (Ronald Reagan on DU: "There's got to be a pony in there somewhere...")
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To: JenB

"Did I tell you, I nearly decked a liberal this week?"

You and me both. I restrained myself by reminding myself how Reagan would've handled it. He would've just said something witty to make them look silly, I bet :)


3,951 posted on 06/11/2004 11:39:59 AM PDT by Fedora (Smeagol-Gollum 2004: "We can be our own VP, my Precious")
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To: Fedora
It would've been cool to remember the first moon landing.

I was 4 during the first moon landing, but I don't remember it. Family tragedy crowded it out, I think; my older brother was dying from leukemia at the time. I do remember the last moon landings in 1972, though: thinking how cool it was seeing the rover bouncing around the landscape, asking my Dad if my backyard telescope was powerful enough to see the astronauts on the surface. :)

What was hearing Nixon's resignation like?

Somber, a little scary, and a bit of a relief, too. No one in my family was sorry to see him go.

3,952 posted on 06/11/2004 11:40:26 AM PDT by Bear_in_RoseBear
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To: Corin Stormhands

He ran against McGovern? Hmmm... I kind of have a hole in American history between, say, 1960 and 1980. For some reason I just don't know that much about the period. Certainly I couldn't tell you who all the presidential losers were...

Watergate sort of, for me, marks the start of the "I'm glad it was over before I came along" period of American history. Carter, gas lines, 24% interest, misery indexes...


3,953 posted on 06/11/2004 11:42:05 AM PDT by JenB
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To: Fedora
Kinda cool you campagined for Goldwater, Corin :)

I was 6. ;-)

Most of what I know about the inner politics of the day is the same stuff you read. I really didn't know/understand that much. But I believe Agnew was Nixon's choice to pacify the Rockefeller wing.

3,954 posted on 06/11/2004 11:42:24 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (Ronald Reagan on DU: "There's got to be a pony in there somewhere...")
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To: JenB

Yeah, I pretty much try to keep my memories of the 70s repressed...


3,955 posted on 06/11/2004 11:43:37 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (Ronald Reagan on DU: "There's got to be a pony in there somewhere...")
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To: Bear_in_RoseBear

"Some might nominate FDR or even Lincoln, though... (I wouldn't!)"

I was toying with nominating FDR myself :) But I refrained because he had some redeeming qualities to balance out his liberalism, at least. I dislike some things he did but I don't despise him with the intensity I do Ted Kennedy or Clinton.


3,956 posted on 06/11/2004 11:44:32 AM PDT by Fedora (Smeagol-Gollum 2004: "We can be our own VP, my Precious")
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To: JenB

"No, it's an upside-down car full of water, frozen in carbonite. :-)"

LOL! Frozen in a carbonite-beer mixture, I bet :) And then John Kerry could be that little pet that Jabba has :)


3,957 posted on 06/11/2004 11:46:26 AM PDT by Fedora (Smeagol-Gollum 2004: "We can be our own VP, my Precious")
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To: Corin Stormhands

If I had memories of the 70s, I'd be repressing them too.


3,958 posted on 06/11/2004 11:48:14 AM PDT by JenB
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To: Corin Stormhands; JenB

"Don't forget Nixon ran against Hubert Humphrey and George McGovern. Don't judge Nixon on the basis of Watergate alone."

And Nixon also exposed Alger Hiss, which is why the liberals hated him in the first place--one reason Nixon is still my hero despite Watergate.


3,959 posted on 06/11/2004 11:48:37 AM PDT by Fedora (Smeagol-Gollum 2004: "We can be our own VP, my Precious")
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To: Bear_in_RoseBear

" I do remember the last moon landings in 1972, though: thinking how cool it was seeing the rover bouncing around the landscape, asking my Dad if my backyard telescope was powerful enough to see the astronauts on the surface. :)"

LOL! My Dad used to show us a home movie of one of the early Apollo flights he got when he was stationed in Florida c. 1962. It was on one of those 8mm films that you had to project onto the wall--back then we thought that was high-tech :)


3,960 posted on 06/11/2004 11:50:52 AM PDT by Fedora (Smeagol-Gollum 2004: "We can be our own VP, my Precious")
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