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*GRIN* I knew that!...I was being facetious...Grima wasn't being very nice to Gandalf at all, calling him ugly names. Stormcrow is another name Gandalf has, but I forget exactly who calls him that one...Grima probably, but I know Denethor hs a few for him as well.

Hubby last night asked about denethor : "what's with the guy who's always eating?" I had to explain that Jackson did a twist on that scene, and it was not really what Denethor was all about.

*feels a rant coming on* so I'll stop now...

OK, fair enough :)

Before I put the book up I noticed first Theoden and then Grima called Gandalf "Stormcrow".

7,826 posted on 05/31/2004 4:12:44 PM PDT by ExGeeEye (Open-box display model. Some accessories supplied. No manual. As is, no warranty. All sales final.)