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To: AnAmericanMother; HairOfTheDog
Ok, I've stopped at two places now to look at saddles. Few questions.
So what do I ask for? A hunt seat forward??

A lady at the saddle shop here seemed surprised when I said I want to look at a forward seat jumping saddle, for trail riding. Did I ask for the wrong thing? She said a dressage saddle would be better. I came back and looked at these pictures you posted, and the hunt seat one does look deeper, which is what I want. She said that a forward seat will not let my leg hang straight and so be uncomfortable.

Also are Kincaids (sp) a decent brand? I'm really not wanting to spend a lot. The dressage saddle she showed me was $1200, Yikes:). I found a Kincaide at Pet Smart, I think it was a forward jumping saddle (how do you tell the difference between hunt seat and close contact), for $299, by the time I get the stirrups, stirrups leathers, girt, and a pad it will be in the neighbor hoood of $450. Is that good or bad? Can I do better?

Becky
237 posted on 04/30/2004 5:56:42 AM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain (Proud member of the Lunatic Fringe, we love Spam, Uzi's and Jesus)
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
A "Forward-Seat saddle" with a deep seat.... or a deep seated "all purpose" is what you should ask for. The differences you are shopping for are between the "deep seat" which will have the higher cantel and pommel and the "close contact" which will look much flatter

She is sortof right about the dressage saddle hanging your leg straighter... But I wouldn't get one. I wear my stirrups long on trail for my knees, longer than someone would for jumping.

Your price on one sounded like a very good price. Here is the saddle I got... Arcaro's Saddlery Wintec 500 English Saddles - Page 1

238 posted on 04/30/2004 6:15:28 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog (I am HairOfTheDog and I approved this message.)
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
Going to ride tomorrow. I hope it goes smoothly. I haven't rode all week.
239 posted on 04/30/2004 6:52:01 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
I found your saddle on line I think. Is this it? Looks good... Calling it a close contact but it still has a nice seat. Price w/o fittings $335.

Catalog: Kincade Close Contact

240 posted on 04/30/2004 6:53:21 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog (I am HairOfTheDog and I approved this message.)
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
Kincaid is a bargain brand. If you're going to ride a lot, and you want a saddle that will last, I would buy a used saddle so that you can get better quality for the same money (once you ride in it a couple of times your stirrup leathers will mark the flap and skirt, and it will then be a "used" saddle, so why not start with one?) Be sure to inspect the stitching and padding - better yet, take the saddle "on approval" and have your trainer/instructor vet it for you. Don't forget to make sure that it's a good fit for your horse as well.

Most communities have a consignment shop where you can buy used tack - many tack shops will have a used tack section. I would look around and see what you can find. I bought my Courbette used - it's not the top of their line (I can't afford that kind of money) but it's a good mid range saddle. New, it costs around $1300. I paid $750, minus the $300 I got in trade for my Beval close contact, so I was only out of pocket 4. That's probably too much saddle for you . . . (I'm hunting and competing and needed more durability) but I think you'll be happier if you buy a used saddle of better quality. I would think Caprilli, Crosby, Courbette, Pariani, or Stuebben (although I don't care for Stuebben - they don't happen to fit me or my horse well - they are a quality saddle).

Ask for a general purpose forward seat saddle with a deep seat, or a "hunting saddle". You don't want a dressage saddle, it's very much a special purpose saddle and places you too far back for trail riding (you want to be able to get up off your horse's back for creek crossings, popping over fallen logs, etc.) If you're not jumping, you can let your stirrups down in a forward seat saddle and get the same effect, especially if the saddle has a deep seat.

Another good point about buying used tack is that you can get used stirrups, stirrup leathers, and girths DIRT CHEAP. That stuff depreciates like mad. At our local consignment shop, I bought an elastic-end girth, leathers, and some nice stainless steel stirrups, and came in under $100. It would be worth driving some distance to take advantage of that kind of bargain! The consignment shop here is in Alpharetta and an hour away from my house. It's worth the drive. I buy all my kids' riding clothes there - children's stuff is really cheap. Fortunately there's a girl somewhere who's just a little older and bigger than my daughter, who has VERY expensive taste! My daughter has had custom boots that fit like they were made for her (she outgrew them and we turned around and sold them for what we paid, less the shop's ten percent), Melton wool hunting coat (she still has that one), and a really nice Australian drover's coat that cost $20 because it was turned in to the shop dirty. It WAS really dirty (caked with mud) but nothing that elbow grease and Murphy's Oil Soap couldn't fix.

242 posted on 04/30/2004 7:06:59 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of Venery (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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