[epigone73]

Aristotle?

learned greek so i could read him in the original. no, nothing wrong with his logic, but he points out, as do his commentators, that a practical syllogism (or any syllogism) can be formally correct without being true.

and aristotle, particluarly in the politics and the Nic. eth. points out some serious problems with the life of the political man, and indicates that philosophy is the only truly self-sufficient, quasi-divine activity in which man can engage.

AS for plato, these are deep waters, my friend. You dont's honestly think that we can hope to begin to decipher what 'Plato' is teaching i nthese dialogues, do you? See l. strauss, anywhere in his writings, to get a good intro to the hermeneutical problem.

(We do have a letter by plato, however. he tried to get involved in politics in syracuse, and was lucky to escape with his life. he advised against political activity altogether.)

[cornelis]

You sound like a converted Thrasymachus.

[JRandomFreeper]

You dont's honestly think that we can hope to begin to decipher what 'Plato' is teaching i nthese dialogues, do you?

As a Texan, I do have some expertise in seperating BS from truth. Plato begs refutation. And was as an unorganized a grabasstic sob as ever existed.

It's a shame you're not a nhilist. I've got a really good response for those. ;>)

But remember, you're arguing with a cook. I make meals for a living. So go easy, Mr. Philosipher.

/john