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Is Manhattan a Family Destination?
3/28/04 | Mr.Fine

Posted on 03/28/2004 6:36:03 PM PST by MrFine

Is Manhattan a family vacation destination?


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Good Evening,

I am in Manhattan, New York City, New York, this evening and will be traveling back to my home in Granite Bay, California tomorrow afternoon. So tonight I will offer my impressions on the city known as 'The Center of the Civilized World'. Yeah, right....

New York is an interesting place, I saw a guy, (whose look is now referred to as a Metrosexual) today, wearing sky blue capri pants, with a short white leather jacket walking with his FEMALE companion. This was a man clearly in touch with his feminine side and happily comfortable showing it. He was also wearing shiny black boots with zippers up the sides that reached the hem of his capri pants. I suppose his shiny boots were worn to keep his legs from getting cold. (It was after all, 30 degrees outside.) This was a look that I tried to imagine me, an 41 year old who is 6'3 and 250 lbs wearing.... After I regained consciousness, I reflected that compared to Manhattan, California is a sane place. That is wrong on so many levels.

My scintillating, and strikingly beautiful wife, Lindsey, as well as my soon to be overwhelmingly handsome son, Taylor and I went to Ground Zero last night around 12:00AM to pray at the suggestion of Taylor. (Is that cool or what, a son who when first told of his upcoming trip to Manhattan, offered as his first suggestion to have us go to Ground Zero to pray for our country). This is something I think every American should do. The hole where the World Trade Center stood prior to 9/11 is currently still, a hole. There is building going on but you can see things like the remaining scraps of the shattered underground parking area. My wife commented that New Yorkers appeared to have forgottenor lost their outrage over 9/11 along with most other Americans.

I won't, And neither will my wife and son. My sons prayer was to hope that other cities around the world would not have anything like this happen and to protect the families of the people lost in 9/11. It made my heart ache so deeply to hear a prayer like that come from the heart of an 11 year old boy who usually prefers talking about things like dogs, dragonball z, and hot wheels. Afterward, we silently drove back to our hotel and went to bed.

Now to reflect on life in Manhattan:

The primary sport in New York is obtaining and then flaunting wealth. Love of self is taken to a level that even I, a California native find shocking. Another interesting thing about New York is that people here love health food even more than Californians do.

The activity I enjoy most is driving in Manhattan. I rented a beige Ford Crown Victoria and proceeded to drive as fast and as obnoxious as cabbies here do. It makes me feel alive.

My wife on the other hand is now bedridden at the hotel with lower spine and brainstem injuries that came from the constant stopping, mashing the accelarator, swerving, and then slamming on the brakes again. This is great fun and sport for me as well as my 11 year old son, Taylor, who sits in back and continously laughs hysterically like an adolescent hyena. My wife on the other hand has become deeply traumatized and now will always ride with both hands grasping the handhold next to the passenger window and her feet jammed against the firewall providing a rigid position that looks darned uncomfortable to me and resembles a really lifelike, well dressed, and very attractive store mannekin.

The other things I found out while driving in Manhattan are,

1. Older people can run really fast when you gun your engine as you approach the intersection they are crossing and swerve towards them at the same time.

2. The horn is a weapon.

3. Never make eye contact,

4. There is no such thing as too close while driving in Manhattan.

And last, but not least,

5. Size does matter. Especially when two vehicles are trying to fill the same space at the same time. An action that I've found that consistently proves several laws of physics like mass, velocity, inertia, and gravity.

That is all for now.

Good Night From New York.

1 posted on 03/28/2004 6:36:04 PM PST by MrFine
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To: MrFine
It is an adult family vacation destination. There are no giant water flumes for your kids to ride. Just some of the best museums, food, culture and night life in the world.

The Hot Wheels Hall of Fame is located in Los Angeles...perhaps you would prefer to take your son there.
2 posted on 03/28/2004 6:47:08 PM PST by BikerNYC
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To: MrFine
Four useless vanities and you've only been signed up 2 days.

Here we go again, way too many vanities.

Either post an article from a legitimate news source or add your comments to an existing thread.

3 posted on 03/28/2004 6:50:18 PM PST by TomB (I voted for Kerry before I voted against him.)
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To: TomB
Bite me!
This is a surprisingly boring way to express opinions and views.
Way Too Serious......
4 posted on 03/28/2004 6:53:20 PM PST by MrFine
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To: MrFine
This is a surprisingly boring way to express opinions and views.

It's got nothing to do with being boring or interesting, it has to do with keeping bandwidth use under control. If everybody posts stupid vanities like the ones you post, the server would be swamped.

The owner of the website has asked people to refrain from vanites. It is a good idea to heed the advice.

5 posted on 03/28/2004 6:58:37 PM PST by TomB (I voted for Kerry before I voted against him.)
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To: TomB
> The owner of the website has asked people to refrain from vanites.

Huh? Vanities are common on FR, and even have their own section. Who appointed you as an FR police?
6 posted on 03/28/2004 7:15:30 PM PST by old-ager
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To: MrFine
Hi MrFine. Despite an old woman worrying about your excessive consumption of what he/she calls "bandwidth" (which would only happen if your posts were wildly popular), I enjoyed your post on NYC. Not every American has to worship that place.
7 posted on 03/28/2004 7:17:46 PM PST by old-ager
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To: TomB
Four useless vanities and you've only been signed up 2 days.

And not a single reply to any other threads. I don't like to be hard on new folks, but something just seems out of kilter.

8 posted on 03/28/2004 8:41:04 PM PST by Flyer ( http://talesfromtherail.com/ . . . .The disaster in Houston known as MetroRail)
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To: old-ager
Huh? Vanities are common on FR, and even have their own section. Who appointed you as an FR police?

No, vanities are TOO common on FR.

The link above is from the overship, not me.

9 posted on 03/29/2004 4:09:26 AM PST by TomB (I voted for Kerry before I voted against him.)
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To: BikerNYC
It is an adult family vacation destination. There are no giant water flumes for your kids to ride. Just some of the best museums, food, culture and night life in the world.

Like Las Vegas, New York ain't Branson. Like you said, if you're expecting boring Mid-Western fun, go to Dollywood.

10 posted on 03/29/2004 7:15:18 AM PST by Modernman (Chthulhu for President! Why Vote for the Lesser Evil?)
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To: TomB
Good choice for a rental car...good size...lots of heft. 1st thing I used to do was inflate the tires to just past their max. Say 38 -42 psi. It helps with cornering. Makes the ride a bit stiffer...but for me...flatter cornering was worth it.

Good post.

11 posted on 03/29/2004 8:35:41 AM PST by Khurkris (Ranger On..."I'd rather carry pigs that that damn durian fruit!")
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To: MrFine
If you don't like it, don't come back. How dare you make casual observations of New Yorkers and accuse us of not grieving properly. How DARE you?! We are picking up the pieces and moving on. Going to work, going to school, and doing those things that make us free, living Americans. 3000 of our friends can't do that anymore. Haven't you ever heard of honoring the dead by living? We, not you, WE are the ones who have to keep going, every day looking at a the jack-o-lantern smile of a skyline missing two teeth. We are the ones who have to worry every time we get on a subway, a bus, a train. We are the ones who sometimes just have to call our brothers and hear their voices, because we remember all too clearly the day we thought we might never hear them again. So you can take your incorrect, arrogant and unfeeling observations, put them in your suitcase, and get out of our city.
As for the driving, and all the other useless crap you complained about ... Why don't you take a look at LA traffic? NYC has a 100-year-old, fully functioning and ever improving subway system. It is safe and efficient. It's easier on the environment, and frees the roads for those who really do need to drive. NYC boasts the lowest cab fares in the country, too. I'm glad you had fun being a swerving tourist driver in a giant rental car. That's another reason why we New Yorkers love you tourists so much. As long as you are making generalizations, why don't I make a few of my own? Many of you tourists don't rent cars, and instead walk everywhere. In theory, I support this. However, you insist on walking 4-abreast, very slowly, maps in hand, eyes skyward. The rest of us are NOT on vacation, and are hurriedly trying to get to where we need to be. You and your family are taking up the entire sidewalk, and it's impossible to get around you. When we do finally mange to squeeze by, we are accused of being rude and huffy. Now, despite the ginormous maps you all carry, you are ALWAYS lost. Manhattan, for the most part, is a perfect grid system. You can't go more than a block in the wrong direction without knowing it. Yet somehow, you manage to stand in front of giant landmarks, such as vast Central Park, and fail to pick out which way is North. Why don't you spend 10 minutes in your hotel room looking at your map and getting the lay of the land? Below 14th street, you are welcome to get lost. We all do. But in midtown, please, get a clue.
Now, on to your comment about our drive to amass and display wealth. It's called consumerism, it's good for the economy, and it's one of the reasons New York's economy didn't totally implode after the WTC did. So what if we choose to spend our hard-earned money on trendy clothes? Are we hurting anyone? If nothing else, I'm sure we look a thousand times better than all of you overall-clad tourists. When people visit foreign cities abroad, they don't have a problem obeying local customs. Shorts, for example, are not acceptable in many countries. Well, here in NYC, looking like you just rolled in from the fields isn't acceptable either. Go ahead and call me a snob, but you are wrong. It's about looking sophisticated and put-together. We have fabulous discount stores, like H&M, that sell very stylish pieces at lower prices. Maybe we'll be nicer to you if you don't look like a bunch of country bumpkins.
You know, when I first noticed tourism picking up after it dropped off following 9/11, I was happy for New York and happy for the economy. I was proud of my fellow Americans for coming to support us. But if you are just going to show up here, make fun of all of us and think that going to Ground Zero makes up for all that, well then you can just take your sanctimonious attitude, climb up on your high horse, and go home.
12 posted on 03/29/2004 4:57:53 PM PST by Truth'sBabyGirl (Bucknell class of 2003, Fordham Law 2006)
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Well now, I have been properly chastised.....
Let me apologize to you personally if I offended you in making an observation that I still think bears weight. One thing though, I travel to Manhattan monthly and have been doing so for a couple of years, I normally take the bus from LaGuardia to the Port Authority terminal and walk to my hotel. Then I cab to my appointments and other destinations. Because of this I do know Manhattan and can even find my way to Long Island if I need to.
I have never stood on a sidewalk in my overalls gawking at the BIG buildings like lil abner. Next time I might...
However, If you had read my post, you might have found that I truly enjoy driving in Manhattan. It is the most fun I have ever had. I will do so again.(By the way, what are you talking about when referring to being lost and giant maps?)
Also, I am treated just fine in the city. We love the stores, the food, the museums and a million other things. When my son and I took a walk to toys r us at Times Square, He walked behind me holding onto my shoulder.
As amazing as it sounds, have you ever considered the thought that there might be some truth to what I said?
I watch protests all the time in the city against our president, against our country. So how are those New Yorkers helping America?
As far as your crass commercialism and the way you grieve. I have two things to say: 1. Regarding your grief over 9/11, I really do apologize for passing on a remark my 'Hick' wife made to me. It is obviously incorrect.
I do have one question though, why aren't you screaming in the same shrill manner about the hypocrite you have for a senator, Ms.Clinton and all she has done to undermine the security we (us Americans) need?
I live in Northern California. If there is one thing I can say, it is that you can make fun of my city (San Francisco) all you want and I won't mind. Get a sense of humor BABE. Also, since 20 BILLION dollars was given by the federal government to help rebuild what was taken from America on that day, I think it is not at all inappropriate for me to take my family to see the place where some of my tax dollars are going. It means a lot to all Americans and even we still grieve despite going on with our lives.
Lastly, As amazing as it sounds, explaining to my 11 year old son why there are so many 40 foot tall banners of women in underwear is not what I think Manhattan should be about. Oh yeah, that's consumerism...
I wonder, do you think it's good for young kids to constantly be exposed to soft core porn? I'm sure some of you sophisticated and well put together people have children. Do you just tell them "it's ok honey, it's just consumerism"?
Get real, New York is arrogant and you prove it.
fuhgedaboudit.....
13 posted on 03/30/2004 12:08:57 AM PST by MrFine
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