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To: GovernmentShrinker
Your logic ignores that our society is indeed a society.

Every human has the right to live, and each human should be treated equally under the law. There's only one scientific definition of human - and that's the species definition. All the others are opinion, preference, prejudice and discrimination.

No one is "forcing' any one to continue the pregnancy -- however we can refuse permission and even punish the initiation of force that will end in the death of a member of our society.

Fortunately, I believe in regression to the mean in human characteristics, especially those that have a mixed genetic/environmental component.. Other wise I'd be concerned about the number of utilitarians I see around here.

I don't think the statistics support you on the fate of minority babies in regard to adoption. Most of the children in foster care are legally restricted from being adopted (someone already has a claim on them, historical attempts to reunite children with their parents, and financial barriers that encourage foster care over adoption.). There has been a bit of reform in the last 10 years, such as allowing foster families to adopt or even paying them to do so.
13 posted on 05/07/2004 11:26:11 PM PDT by hocndoc (Choice is the # 1 killer in the US)
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To: hocndoc
Most healthy white children in foster care also have restrictions on adoption. But the fact remains that overall, healthy white children are adopted at far, far higher rates than non-white and/or disabled children, despite heavy subsidies and outright bribes for adopting the "difficult to place" children.

Of more concern is the quality of homes that many minority and/or disabled children end up in. The case in NJ of the 3 boys whose adoptive parents were starving them (including a 45 pound 19-year-old) is extreme, but I'm afraid part of a trend. Nobody wants these kids, so they get dumped on virtually any family who will take them -- including families who obviously want them only for the subsidy check, and haven't the slightest intention of caring for them to even a bare minimum standard. Too many of these kids grow up to be brain-damaged and permanently (and irreparably) angry, with no real options besides joining a street gang, and committing crimes, until they get caught and jailed, or get killed. Sadly, most manage to reproduce in the interim, perpetuating the horrible cycle and all its associated suffering -- much of which spills out into the healthy segments of society.

Society DOES matter, and that's why it's worth protecting from the scourge of unwanted babies. One of the most alarming results of the growing mobs of unwanted-children-turned-adults is the growing pressure they cause for socialism. Not just the ones who wnet through the foster/adoptive care system, but many others as well. They don't have the ability or inclination to support themselves, and they and their families invariably vote for socialism (if they vote at all) and are used by the left as pawns to convince others of the need for socialism. The only possibly ultimate outcome is the loss of a free society, and the imposition of socialism/communism, which can usually only be overthrown after decades of widespread misery followed by bloody revolution. No thanks.
15 posted on 05/08/2004 9:20:46 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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