To: dangus; CWW; Arthur McGowan; redlipstick
Mel's father broke with the Church over Vatican II.
Mel believes, as does his father that there is no salvation other than through the church (see this link:
http://www.catholic.com/library/Salvation_Outside_the_Church.asp ) Here is a relevant quote from the link: "Certain radical traditionalists, going to the other extreme, claim that unless one is a full-fledged, baptized member of the Catholic Church, one will be damned."
Thus - if his father has broken from the Church (because of Vatican II) how can he reconcile his views that all people outside of the Catholic Church be damned to hell with his and his father *not* going to hell?
To: NotQuiteCricket
His father did not break from the Catholic church. His father belongs to a group known as Sedavacantist, who believe that the current Pope is an anti-pope, and that the Chair of St. Peter is now vacant. This is heresy, but not apostasy.
277 posted on
02/10/2004 9:05:21 AM PST by
dangus
To: NotQuiteCricket
Your second paragraph contains the surgically accurate question that destroys the Feeneyite heresy and the claims of its adherents either to Roman Catholic Church membership and/or, if they had been right which they are not, they would be condemned to hell. Happily, their belief is heresy. They cannot make it otherwise. Like anyone else, they may still wind up in hell for sin.
332 posted on
02/10/2004 11:20:56 AM PST by
BlackElk
(Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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