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To: jwh_Denver
Close, much better than your original post. Still not quite there though. I would make the following point.

Jesus was not killed. He was not murdered. By anybody.

He gave His life. Freely. It was God's plan, and it was carried out to perfection. Had He not chosen to die, then there would be no cross. There would be no movie about The Passion of The Christ.

That doesn't mean that there is no culpability in His death. We are responsible. All of us. Our sin is responsible, all of our sin.

This bears repeating. The Jews did not kill Christ. The Romans did not kill Christ. Mankind did not kill Christ. He chose to die. Period. Amazing when you think about it.

Our sin requires a blood sacrifice for atonement. He provided that sacrifice of His own free will, following God's plan. Because of His sacrifice, we can claim His atonement for our sins.

I was't trying to pick a fight. But we don't accuse others of killing Jesus. Period.
57 posted on 02/03/2004 9:25:17 PM PST by Texas2step
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To: Texas2step
Our sin requires a blood sacrifice for atonement. He provided that sacrifice of His own free will, following God's plan. Because of His sacrifice, we can claim His atonement for our sins.

Thank you for your decency as a fellow brother/sister in Christ. I totally agree that the above statement transcends all the statements I've said. If you read my post 52 God does say who killed Jesus Christ. If it's in the Scriptures then it is important. But I think your point is more important. I don't hate the Jews rather I love them because out of them came Jesus Christ who went to the crucifixion with "joy set before him". Also God tells us to love but He never says says to love "Satan".

If you can give me Scripture where God blames all mankind for the death of Jesus Christ then I will accept that. Adam was responsible for our sinful nature, not us.

Rom 5:14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.
Rom 5:15 But not as the offence, so also [is] the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, [which is] by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.
Rom 5:16 And not as [it was] by one that sinned, [so is] the gift: for the judgment [was] by one to condemnation, but the free gift [is] of many offences unto justification.
Rom 5:17 For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)
Rom 5:18 Therefore as by the offence of one [judgment came] upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one [the free gift came] upon all men unto justification of life.
Rom 5:19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.

59 posted on 02/03/2004 10:13:39 PM PST by jwh_Denver (Things always go better with God. Get lost Coca Cola)
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