[Centennial]

No I do not support amnesty. I don't think we should pound them into the ground either because our government has not had the guts to enforce our laws for the last 40 years. Document them, and know who they are. After a period of time and close border controls the problem will become a thing of the past. The pressure a halt in illegal immigration will put on the Mexican Govt. will result in changes that will benefit the Mexican people in the long run.

[Coeur de Lion]

It's never going to happen. Did you not possibly notice that Bush didn't address "border security" with respect to his plan? Did you not notice that he also didn't spell out in any detail the exact nuances of his plan (i.e. will employees have to provide minimum wage, or basic health insurance, etc.)? And of course, you probably missed the fact that Dennis Hastert announced today the plan as virtually dead, because there was no way they could get the votes in Congress for it. I don't think that's going to change after the next election. What ever is proposed in this plan leaves Bush ample wiggle room to get out of anything the Democrats might throw at him. Also, if anything from this plan survives it's going to require a lot of "horse-trading."

[Hand em their arse]

"I don't think we should pound them into the ground either because our government has not had the guts to enforce our laws for the last 40 years."

I think we have gained alot more "guts" over the last two and a half years. We've had to make many changes that people don't like. 9/11 changed everything....everything!!
I wish we didn't have a choice but to watch video of those planes hit those buildings and peoples co-workers have to jump 100 stories knowing they were going to die because THAT was the best option. I wish people saw that every day on television, I don't think they'd forget the way they have. Not you necessarily Centennial, I just think all of the pissy little crap we hear from the left regarding patriot act invasions of rights is getting way to f**ing old!!!