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To: The American Man; dighton
You write: > “you lob insults freely”<

Yes, you do. Go back and read your remarks. Everyone who smelled something fishy in your actions got remarks about their low intelligence, about how they love serfdom, about how they're too blind to see what you see (which, incidentally, also satisfies the "your way is the only true way" issue).

Your whole “argument” seems to be based on the fact that I’m a newbe!

Yes. You are a newbie. That makes you suspect. It is incumbent on you to prove that you are a serious contributor and not a troll. After the 2000 elections, we've had a string of self-proclaimed "true conservatives" show up and start food fights.

Please explain what that has to do with the validity (or fallacy) of my argument. Or any argument for that matter?

By itself, nothing.

In conjunction with

Tell me this: do you support law enforcement when they use "profiling" to catch criminals?

You're being profiled, and your profile says "troll." If you didn't intend for it to be such, that is your problem, and not mine.

It’s irrelevant!

It's entirely relevant.

No, my friend , I don’t employ the “Delphi Technique” Rather I employ the system of a certain Philosopher, that the Oracle at Delphi proclaimed to be the wisest man in Greece. It’s a system that purports to get at the truth.

Did this technique include insulting your opponent's intelligence?

That is a hallmark of the Delphi Technique.

So are attempts to engage in secret communications via FReepmail with someone you have an antagonistic relationship with.

The above should read: > Lots of people have done “WHAT” I've just described.< Not: > Lots of people have done THAT I've just described (to ere is human; to forgive is divine. we all make mistakes)

When you can post in standard written English, free of idiot-grade spelling errors, fractured syntax, and bizarre punctuation that conforms to no style manual I've ever read, then you will have earned the right to lecture me about minor lapses in grammar. Until then, it just makes you look like a fool. If such is your intent, then knock yourself out.

I came here to have intelligent discourse; Not “food fights.”

Then start engaging in intelligent discourse; nobody is stopping you. The problem is that you haven't actually engaged in intelligent discourse yet, but you demand to be treated as if you are.

Please do not post further to me. Also, do not send me FReepmail.

33 posted on 01/21/2004 8:21:42 AM PST by Poohbah ("Beware the fury of a patient man" -- John Dryden)
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To: Poohbah
Dear Mr. Poobah:

It was (and is ) not my intention to humiliate you further in front of your friends.

Anyone can see that I did not pick a fight with you but, like most bullies, when they get a bloody nose: they are the first ones to start crying..

Most of your friends, wisely, departed after round one.

You on the other hand have managed to drag yourself out bloody and beaten “rocky style” for round three!

You have had every opportunity to be a man -- a gentleman.

You write: > “Did this technique include insulting your opponent's intelligence?”<

No. Nor does one -- in the Socratic method -- actually have an “opponent” in the ordinary sense of the word.

How it works is one person asks a series of questions, and than the other answers.

After a time the other person may ask some questions; and the first person answers.

It can be very enlightening in that ones “opponent“ can often teach us many things.

He is more of a partner than an “opponent”; you both work together to reveal the Truth. This is why I have continually asked you to comment on what I wrote: I wish to learn.

Did you know that Socrates -- “the wisest man in Greece” -- at his death -- when asked what he had learned of truth -- said: “all I can tell you for sure is that I know nothing. “

My intention in posting was to get a response. To get at the truth! I have gotten one or two positive comments -- but frankly -- I don’t WANT to be right about this immigration issue.

So there you have it!

I would like this to end on a positive note.

When I was a young man we were raised to be gentlemen.

If we got in a spat we were made to “shake hands.”

It was part of being a “good sport.”

I have a code of honor.

Therefore, as a gentleman, I extend my hand to you.

You may shake it, or not, it is entirely up to you.

I hold no ill-will toward you; and I wish you well.

Sincerely, American Man .

PS: If you go over the posts carefully you will find that I never directly said that you are unintelligent. Yes -- at the worst -- I used innuendo.... And that, at a time when I was under constant personal attack. Of course, I defended myself! (you should see the stuff I deleted. Oyevay!) Anyway, I have since been to your personal information page, and I enjoyed it very much. It’s very creative! So NO, in big letters: I DON’T THINK YOU ARE UNINTELLIGENT -- humorless yes; unintelligent, No ( that’s a joke: please don’t go nuts).
34 posted on 01/21/2004 3:54:53 PM PST by The American Man
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