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Dating game becoming more like a chore
Winston-Salem Journal ^ | Thursday, January 8, 2004 | Kate Zernike

Posted on 01/08/2004 8:37:53 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves

By her own admission, Sara Cambridge was "totally cruising."

She spent hours trolling online dating sites, sending e-mail messages to potential mates and creating "a real connection," which would invariably sour into deep disappointment within the first five minutes of an actual date. At which point she would return to the sites, send more e-mail, make another connection and suffer another snap disappointment.

Finally, there was the left-leaning writer, who took her to a Japanese tea garden and, like so many of the others, seemed so perfect from his resume.

"In the e-mails, he would say, 'Tell me a story,' which I thought was kind of charming," said Cambridge, 38, a graphic designer in San Francisco. "When we got together it was, 'Tell me stories, tell me stories, tell me stories.' I felt like I was auditioning for a play."

That was it.

"I realized I could be starting my own business in the time I was spending looking at these ads and crafting these responses," she said. So instead of going back online, she began taking a class in small-business administration and designing funky planters.

Cambridge's tale is one small act of resistance against what might be called the Dating-Industrial Complex, a mighty fortress increasingly hard to ignore. To Match.com and Nerve.com, add DreamMates, The Right Stuff, eHarmony and eCrush (neither to be confused with Etrade, though the general concept is the same). TurboDate, HurryDate, 8minuteDating - or It's Just Lunch.

Reality television shows - The Bachelorette, Average Joe - have fed the impression that finding the right mate is as simple as being presented with a room of 10 people and picking one. Bookstores bulge: Surrendered Single, Find a Husband After 35 Using What I Learned at Harvard Business School, Make Every Girl Want You. That is just a sampling from the last year; the next two months will bring one manual promising to lure the love of your life in seven weeks, another in a sleeker six.

"There's a fetishization of coupling," said Bella DePaulo, a visiting professor of psychology at the University of California at Santa Barbara, who studies perceptions of singles. "It's made the pressure that's always been there more intense."

Yet like Cambridge, longtime combatants in the dating wars, psychologists and those who study the lives of singles talk about increasing dating fatigue. They say that more and more people are taking dating sabbaticals or declaring they will let romance happen by chance, not commerce. Once-obsessive online daters are logging off, clients of speed-dating services - which offer dozens of encounters in a roomful of strangers - are slowing down. A book due out this month, Quirkyalone, offers "a manifesto for uncompromising romantics" - those not opposed to romance but against the compulsory dating encouraged by the barrage of books, Web sites and matchmaking services.

Pottery Barn and Williams-Sonoma report that singles are signing up for housewarming and birthday registries, deciding they do not have to wait for a wedding to request the pastamaker and flatware. Smaller stores report single women registering for china patterns and crystal, without ring, proposal or mate.

"I have no doubt that there is a great, committed relationship out there for me," Cambridge said. "I don't identify at all with people who think, 'I'll never find another person.' I just think the best thing to do is pursue my goals, and whatever unfolds will be a new story."

Barbara Dafoe Whitehead, the co-director of the National Marriage Project, who relied on a national survey as well as in-depth interviews and dating histories of 60 women for her 2002 book Why There Are No Good Men Left: The Romantic Plight of the New Single Woman, said this hard-won wisdom is increasingly common. "People are making some kind of private agreement with themselves that they're not going to do this in a panicky, driven way that implicitly buys into the notion that if it doesn't happen to you, you'll be miserable," she said.

The discontent, Whitehead said, is not limited to women. Marc Johnson, 33, describes his late 20s and early 30s as a cycle between looking for dates, planning dates, going on dates or deconstructing dates with friends.

It all began to seem a bit small last year when he returned to New York from a trip to Vietnam, and was greeted by friends hassling him about when he was going to date various women.

"When you're seeing the world and civilizations that are thousands of years old - it seemed so petty to focus on 'meeting the right match,"' he said, his voice mocking the phrase. "You get a bit older, you go through this a couple of times, you start to think that life is short."

Like others, Johnson now feels that you can't hurry love. "It's not a backlash or resenting the whole dating thing," he said. "It's just, you've gotten over it, it's no longer of the utmost importance to go on a set number of dates or be on dates or to meet some specific person. By taking off that pressure you allow yourself to just go through life, enabled to meet people."

Kara Herold, 34, who lives in San Francisco, grew increasingly alarmed as friends succumbed to the pressure to find a mate, buying - and buying into - the endless supply of love-help books.

"In college when I was 20 it was dieting, now it's men and relationships," she said. "I was in a panic, but part of me thought, 'This is crazy, why are we concerned about this?"'

Herold is turning her disgust into a documentary, Bachelor, 34, which captures her mother's urging her toward a relationship ("He's Catholic and Republican, but it's nothing you can't change") and her online experiences.

Sasha Cagen, the author of Quirkyalone, wrote her book after being, as she said, "thoroughly messed up by The Rules," the best-seller that advised women to play the old-fashioned game of hard-to-get.

"The whole idea that you shouldn't ask someone out, that you're putting yourself out there to be rejected, that's just stupid," she said. "It just reinforces this warped, passive vision of what it means to be a woman."

Cagen, 29, is not against setups or dating. She is emphatically not against sex. Rather, she writes, she is "anti dull relationship."

She reminds her followers of the power of not yearning for a relationship. "If you are in a relationship to feel normal," she writes, "get out."

Still, the dating industry steamrolls forward, particularly in online services, which claim a huge jump in membership in the last two years.

Although the services love to talk about the success stories, they also admit, more quietly, to the dropouts. Matchmaker.com says its internal surveys show that the No. 1 reason people leave is that they do not find the right person. Just below that is that they have met someone, and men are twice as likely as women to say they met that companion offline, not on. (Women who drop out after meeting someone are twice as likely to cite an online connection.)

Ethan Watters, the author of Urban Tribes, which began with his own exploration of why he had remained single into his 30s, said that as people delay marriage, they begin to rely more on friends and see relationships less as the missing piece that will complete their lives. "They realize that a good love affair has as the basis a really good friendship," he said.


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To: Salgak
once women knew I was Republican, I couldn't get a date, much less anything more. I had one woman break it off with me with the excuse "But I had no idea you were such a REPUBLICAN". . .heck, half the personals in "Washingtonian" read "No Republicans".

But, why would you even want to bother with those worthless ditzes? "Be ye not unequally yoked with unbelievers, for what fellowship hath light with darknesss?"

Once upon a time, I got to do some consciousness raising ob this subject at a local shooting range. As I was packing up to leave, I got to chatting with a fellow, a couple of years younger than myself, who happened to be at the same college. Somewhere along the way he began telling me about his girlfriend... his liberal girlfriend. I tried to show him the implications of his awful decision thus:

"...so suppose you marry the liberal woman, and the two of you have a little boy. And when your little boy is about 6 or so, some stupid drunk driver runs you over and kills you. Now the liberal woman has to raise your little boy the rest of the way, without you. She won't let him have guns, she won't let him hunt - "

He didn't let me finish the sentence. A horrified look came over his face, and he practically shouted at me: "She'd turn him into a total fag!"

I think he got the message. Liberal women are unfit mothers. Since you shouldn't breed from them, don't marry them, and therefore don't date them. Let their evil breed die out. Go for a Russian or Asian or Latina if you have to, but don't EVER get mixed up with an American liberal.

321 posted on 01/08/2004 9:09:36 PM PST by Rytwyng
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To: technochick99
T-99,

As a practical chick, what are your insights on "dating" - the second, third dates, et al., when some things click.

As a bacholor so far, wandering around this fragile coupling arabeque I am concerned with contracting herpes and running afoul of "sperm bandits". I am in Dallas where both are rampant. Lying is an artform.

I have not yet married, no kids, so I have an established estate and desire no divorce court marriages to destroy it. I have felt as if a D&B via Q&A had been run on me by V.P. like 30-40 somethings. Dating has become more awkward and abrasive every year when socializing with bright, successful, usually divorced with one or two kids.

My preference is well educated (degrees or not), well traveled (curious), earthy (feet on the ground and chore willing hands), honest women always with the beauty of self-confidence who believe in marriage for life, the for better or worse and sickness and in health parts, AND understand that abortion is killing. The last one is a tough, soul searching matter, because a woman who chose murdering her unborn is not one in whom I want to trust with my or children's lives.

In my experience, every woman who eventually had "issues" surface had also at some point admitted abortion(s). This Constitutional right I fear is a withering mistake millions upon millions of 25-50 y.o. American women have made, adversely changing their mate-ability.

There are too many parameters in so many dimensions that any feminism/utopian politics is just the third rail. Manners are treacherous. Humor is dangerous. PC is intolerable. Coupling is potentially lethal, metaphorically and literally. Bio-clocks tick like Big Ben and have been negotiated by fourth dates...

I miss the old fashioned honesty of pre-agenda boy meets girl dating when emotional intimacy with honesty preceeded physical/medical "challenges" negotiated around as if they were intimacies.

7
322 posted on 01/08/2004 9:10:19 PM PST by SevenDaysInMay (Federal judges and justices serve for periods of good behavior, not life. Article III sec. 1)
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To: Rytwyng
I think he got the message. Liberal women are unfit mothers. Since you shouldn't breed from them, don't marry them, and therefore don't date them. Let their evil breed die out. Go for a Russian or Asian or Latina if you have to, but don't EVER get mixed up with an American liberal.

***I agree. Why raise a baby to become the next Al Franken?
323 posted on 01/08/2004 9:11:40 PM PST by cyborg
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To: SevenDaysInMay
Must depend on where you live. I am 30, single and disease free, very well educated, my passport actually has some stamps in it, and I read. No children ever, and no abortions ever either.
324 posted on 01/08/2004 9:16:42 PM PST by cyborg
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To: KantianBurke
There are three kinds of single women over 21:

1) Those with kids.
2) Those with over $20K in credit card debt.
3) Those with both.

I am not going to sign up to pay someone else's debts or propagate some other male's DNA.

The only freeking way I am ever going to get married again is if her father pays me a fat dowry to take the unstable creature out of his home and make it productive.

325 posted on 01/08/2004 9:17:03 PM PST by Cogadh na Sith (The Guns of Brixton)
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To: chookter
I take it the marriage wasn't coming up roses?
326 posted on 01/08/2004 9:21:25 PM PST by cyborg
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To: cyborg
Oh, it was just awful... awful...

She was eventually diagnosed with manic-depression. Not an uncommon thing, apparently.

I'm going to rename it: "Mad Chick Disease". It's catching...

327 posted on 01/08/2004 9:29:52 PM PST by Cogadh na Sith (The Guns of Brixton)
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To: cyborg
Are you a guy or in truth cyborgette?

I am in Dallas, North Dallas, by mistake I am now certain. I do not like boob job insecurity, very common here.

I am heading west and likely north.

I have had two women on first dates bring up the issue of taking AIDS blood tests. Romance can never be clinical, but romance seems to have everything stacked against it.
328 posted on 01/08/2004 9:31:58 PM PST by SevenDaysInMay (Federal judges and justices serve for periods of good behavior, not life. Article III sec. 1)
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To: July 4th
I'm 24, and already jaded about things. You, my friend, have the right idea.

Well, at 41, I've spent the vast majority of the last 20 or so years alone... I've tried dating, and I suppose that I've gotten a bit jaded and cynical myself... My personal philosophy is "I hate people in general, and women in particular."

Mark

329 posted on 01/08/2004 9:33:31 PM PST by MarkL (It's the Chief's Second Season! See you in the Playoffs!)
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To: SevenDaysInMay
I'm a cyborgette :-)

I'd not likely get a boob job. I don't want men staring at my puppies instead of my face.

If a woman is asking about AIDS tests on the first date then I'd not go near her. She is presuming a little too much.
330 posted on 01/08/2004 9:39:04 PM PST by cyborg
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To: chookter
I am not sure what is going on with women in general these days. Society wise, they are getting a lot of mixed messages. While I am not into these psychobabbler beliefs about the power of media, I notice a lot of women trying have their cake and eat it too. Sex and the City will never be real life. I would not want that life. Women view marriage as burden,etc. They wait till they are older then whine that they can't get married.
331 posted on 01/08/2004 9:46:48 PM PST by cyborg
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To: cyborg
While I am not into these psychobabbler beliefs about the power of media...

I think women are more tuned-in to societal changes and fads. They have to be. It used to be a matter of survival.

Unfortunately, now the fads and fashions are so feminized that women are competing with men--raised by single women--for status and power.

It's not even a 'battle of the sexes' anymore--just a big catfight.

332 posted on 01/08/2004 9:59:22 PM PST by Cogadh na Sith (The Guns of Brixton)
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To: chookter
metrosexuals :(
333 posted on 01/08/2004 10:03:31 PM PST by cyborg
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To: cyborg
Indeed. I wasn't sure that I should even ask the waiter for the 'check' aloud.



334 posted on 01/08/2004 11:37:07 PM PST by SevenDaysInMay (Federal judges and justices serve for periods of good behavior, not life. Article III sec. 1)
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To: Lazamataz
I'll vouch for you, you gorgeous hunk of studliness, you.
335 posted on 01/09/2004 6:36:35 AM PST by Xenalyte (I may not agree with your bumper sticker, but I'll defend to the death your right to stick it)
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To: Rytwyng
My point is, that right-wing women aren't common in DC, and thus you're stuck with what's left. . . literally. . . .
336 posted on 01/09/2004 6:58:28 AM PST by Salgak (don't mind me: the orbital mind control lasers are making me write this. . .)
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To: All
All the good ladies are just too hard to find, and when you do they're married already. I know some ladies who I would just go gaga over, but they're all spoken for. Of course, no one wants anything to do with a 43 year old divorced male who looks older than he really is. Unfortunately for me, grey hair is prominent in early life. And the beard don't help alleviate that. I had some lady tell me I looked like Kenny Rogers. Still haven't figured out if that is a bad thing, yet.
337 posted on 01/09/2004 7:04:00 AM PST by pctech
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To: SevenDaysInMay
Don't remind me about "sperm bandits". The woman I was seeing prior to meeting my wife, approached me with a friend of hers who wanted a child (the friend, BTW, was supposedly bisexual, but as far as I could see, she was a lesbian. . ..). They even offered me a threesome, as long as I got her pregnant. (the girlfriend told me originally that she used to be bi. . . apparently she wanted to be again as well. . .)

I got out of that relationship so fast, there were skid marks. And then got chastised by all of her friends for being "closed-minded". . . .
338 posted on 01/09/2004 7:04:25 AM PST by Salgak (don't mind me: the orbital mind control lasers are making me write this. . .)
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To: Mark17
What country is that???
339 posted on 01/09/2004 7:04:45 AM PST by pctech
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To: ItsOurTimeNow
What part of Indiana you from? I live in Kokomo and can't find those type of women here.
340 posted on 01/09/2004 7:06:34 AM PST by pctech
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