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1 posted on 01/05/2004 9:47:08 AM PST by 1stFreedom
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To: 1stFreedom
Try joining an existing thread where this topic might be discussed rather than posting a vanity.
2 posted on 01/05/2004 9:48:58 AM PST by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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To: 1stFreedom
Powder..Patch..Ball FIRE!

It has been done

Re: Australia also see "The Moon is A Harsh Mistress".

3 posted on 01/05/2004 9:49:37 AM PST by BallandPowder
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Well, for one thing, I think you'd have a hard time finding convicts smart enough to make this work.
4 posted on 01/05/2004 9:49:48 AM PST by r9etb
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The thought of an angry convicted murderer with nothing left to lose behind the steering wheel of a rocket ship with 20,000+ pounds of explosive fuel on board is not a pleasant one...
5 posted on 01/05/2004 9:50:45 AM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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6 posted on 01/05/2004 9:51:09 AM PST by Support Free Republic (Happy New Year)
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Not exactly a good idea. Long-term missions cooped up in a spacecraft require discipline and a sound, well-adjusted mind. I doubt you'll find a criminal with such a critical qualities.

Besides, do you really want society's worst to have a greater chance of making that ever-remote "first contact"?
8 posted on 01/05/2004 9:52:10 AM PST by Prime Choice (Americans are a spiritual people. We're happy to help members of al Qaeda meet God.)
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To: 1stFreedom
"The Moon is a Harsh Mistress", tovarisch.
9 posted on 01/05/2004 9:52:29 AM PST by Jonah Hex (If repetition wasn't a good thing, why would people get married?)
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#1... can't trust em, nobody's going to send one up with billions of dollars of high-tech equipment

#2... there are a lot of non-convicts who would jump at the chance, even if there were no coming back! It's almost a reward, to get a chance to be a space pioneer. No rewards for criminals!
11 posted on 01/05/2004 9:52:59 AM PST by thoughtomator ("I will do whatever the Americans want because I saw what happened in Iraq, and I was afraid"-Qadafi)
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To: 1stFreedom
Didn't they make a science fiction movie about this? Something alnog the lines of Escape from New York meets Planet of the Apes.
12 posted on 01/05/2004 9:53:20 AM PST by bobjam
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how about those who cannot walk? they'd function better in zero grav.
13 posted on 01/05/2004 9:54:45 AM PST by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it with something for you))
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We're working to roll back decades of governmental largesse, to root out political fraud and corruption, and to champion causes which further conservatism in America.

First we abolish NASA and strip the pensions for every phony that works there. However, I would support your plan so long as we send the politicians first.

15 posted on 01/05/2004 9:56:11 AM PST by JohnGalt ("Nothing happened on 9/11 to make the federal government more competent.")
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To: 1stFreedom
I would bet 40% of those people in NASA JPL lab would be willing to do this for free. LOL.
18 posted on 01/05/2004 10:02:51 AM PST by smith288 (Secret member of the VRWC elite forces)
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To: 1stFreedom
Exploring the edges of the galaxy is quite another thing from a mission to Jupiter. In either case you would probably end up with an insane crew
19 posted on 01/05/2004 10:03:06 AM PST by Lee Heggy (When truth and logic fail high explosives are applicable.)
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To: 1stFreedom
Well, first off, your post proceeds on an incorrect assumption, IMHO. "Finding willing participants" is not the problem; there are literally hundreds if not thousands of people who would willing volunteer for space missions. The problem is funding and equipping the spacecraft to actually reach the nearest planets, let alone planets outside of this solar system, without killing the people on board.

Figure that one out, and you've got something.
20 posted on 01/05/2004 10:05:33 AM PST by Bear_in_RoseBear (... on the shores of the Sea comes the end of our fellowship in Middle-earth.)
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If you mean a novel idea as in "strikingly original," it isn't. Sci-fi writers have been rehashing this one for at least 70 years, the most recent example I can think of being Brute Orbits by George Zebrowski.

If you mean a novel idea as in you're writing a novel about it, I would try to discourage you, for the same reason.

If you're serious about this, I see two problems: 1.) lifers and death-row prisoners are generally drug-addled homicidal idiots, and 2.) the sheer physical mass required to provide a person with "40 years of food and water" is mind-boggling. Do you have any idea how much it would cost to put such tonnage in low Earth orbit, much less accelerate it to escape velocity?

On the other hand, if your objective is to provide the Moon or Mars with lots of organic compost for the benefit of the sane colonists who will arrive later, then you may be onto something.

25 posted on 01/05/2004 10:14:55 AM PST by brbethke
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Exploring the outer reaches of our galaxy would be a fantastic voyage. They could land on planets, explore, and then return to the mother ship. Pack enough food water etc for 40 years.

1. We dont know of any planets out of our solar system that could sustain, or even allow landings of humans.

2. Our galaxy is 100,000 light years wide.

They would die of starvation at 40 years before reaching anything out of our solar system.

Even the space ship Enterprise in the Star Trek series, which could speed up to warp 10 or so, only explored a very very very tiny itsie bitsie portion of our galaxy during its multi-year voyage.

26 posted on 01/05/2004 10:16:24 AM PST by waterstraat
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Won't work. Too many Dems just love the Clintons too much to allow them to be sent away.

OK. Nope, I'd rather we save the money and send them to an uninhabited island in the Pacific, leave 'em with a book on survival, a bag of seeds and a knife.

32 posted on 01/05/2004 12:02:12 PM PST by theDentist (Tagline deamed un-inhabitable. Condemned. New Location sought....)
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"Your thoughts?"

Quite simple. We cannot even reach 5% of the speed of light. In fact, 1% is unattainable at present. To reach the nearest star at 1% of lightspeed would take 43 years; the news would take another 4.3 years to get back.

So the answer is: we're locked into a (mostly uninteresting) solar system for a very long time--if not forever.

Mars? Seen one red desert; seen 'em all. The only bodies that have interest for me are Jupiter, Saturn and a few of their moons.

--Boris

33 posted on 01/06/2004 7:53:51 AM PST by boris (The deadliest Weapon of Mass Destruction in History is a Leftist With a Word Processor)
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