[HairOfTheDog]

Don't you think you might be going a bit far in attempting to apply Christian rules to Middle Earth heaven?

This is a fantasy story in a pre-Savior culture with no obvious doctrine to accept or reject to gain salvation. It either is a universalist world where all souls would conceptually have a shot at heaven or a world in which only the elves and other selected people get to go.... if there is a boat to take them.

Gandalf's speech is from the book, but in a different context than in the film.... it is from the Grey Havens.

[BibChr]

No.