[2Jedismom]

What I mean is...I've brought a lot of this on myself. Had I done what I was supposed to do (actually Steve should have done it) which is go to the meeting with all the other boys and do the bear carving where she could witness it, then there would be no doubt. As it is, I forgot, Steve forgot to go to the meeting and we did it "on our own"...opening ourselves up to doubt.

[Sam Cree]

I don't think it matters whether you've "brought any of this on yourself." IMO, there is no place in scouting for the kind of bitchy behavior that you seem to be describing on the part of the den mother or den bitch or whoever that lady is.

There are ways to exert discipline or run a tight ship, or whatever, with repect for the kids or the crew. It's part of what scouting is all about. I think.

[Wneighbor]

What I mean is...I've brought a lot of this on myself.

Don't say that 2J. Sometimes we carry responsibility so far it gives others a tool to use against us. Not everyone is as honorable as you. This lady is taking advantage of your honor and demonstrating unacceptable behavior. Certainly it takes finesse to handle situations like that. And now might not be the time to address it. But, it does need to be addressed. I kinda agree with you that maybe this one is for Steve to take up. If he will.