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The Guild 11-30-2003 The Dems' Changing Tune on Iraq; Past Quotes Reveal Hypocrisy
ChronWatch ^ | 11-30-2003 | Jean Shaw

Posted on 11/30/2003 8:16:47 AM PST by BigWaveBetty

It’s no secret that Democrats’ opposition to the war in Iraq has more to do with politics than principle, but the following collection of quotes (which has been making its way around the Internet) provide further proof.

''One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line.'' -- President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

''If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program.'' -- President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

''Iraq is a long way from [here] but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face.'' -- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Feb 18, 1998

''He [Saddam Hussein] will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983.'' -- Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

''[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs.'' -- Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin (D, MI), Tom Daschle (D), John Kerry (D, MA) and others Oct. 9, 1998

''Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process.'' -- Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

''Hussein has . . . chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies.'' -- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

''There is no doubt that . . . Saddam Hussein has invigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies.'' -- Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, December 5, 2001

''We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandated of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them.'' -- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

''We know that he [Saddam Hussein] has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country.'' -- Vice President Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

''Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power.'' -- Vice President Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

''We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction.'' -- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

''The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons. . . .'' -- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

''I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security.'' -- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

''There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years . . . We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction.'' -- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

''He [Saddam Hussein] has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do'' -- Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

''In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members. . . . It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons.'' -- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

''We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction.'' -- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

''Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime . . . He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation. . . . And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction. . . . So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real. . . .'' -- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003


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Golly, smarts can survive playing with the Stones.

December 5, 2003 -- NOT every rocker is an anti-war George Bush-hater. Former Rolling Stone bassist Bill Wyman told the London Telegraph: "We went in there and did the job and won." Speaking in favor of National Service (Britain's draft), Wyman continued: "I did it in the 1950s. I was in the Army for a year, and that's why I support the war. National Service calms you down and gives you perspective. Perhaps I would have been even more crazy without it." PageSix

201 posted on 12/05/2003 5:24:11 AM PST by BigWaveBetty
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To: BigWaveBetty
To hear the news media - especially the national networks - tell it, the entire state is outraged and about to lynch George Bush. Of course, the union guys are sputtering about how they won't forget how he didn't keep his promise (seems to me he did, but what do I know), but a story in this morning's newspaper had many "man on the street" comments which seemed to indicate that the average Ohio Valley resident wasn't all that bothered by the decision.

Here's some of the hyperbole and hysteria from the union:

ISU President Mark Glyptis said called the president's decision to rescind the Section 201 tariffs a "blow to the working people of America." "We now see what kind of leader we have in the White House," Glyptis said. "He made a promise to us last year, he stood up for American steel, and now he has caved to the economic terrorism from foreign steelmakers and their governments." link

On the other hand, a local resident commented, "We're in a global market. We can't isolate ourselves. If they (the steel companies) don't want to compete, they can lock up the doors and go home."

202 posted on 12/05/2003 5:30:22 AM PST by mountaineer
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Video Captures Canine Seeking Shelter Inside Family Car

Members of the Leroy family in Washington thought they were the target of a prankster when they kept finding a stray dog inside their parked car.

Intent on catching the culprit, they set up a video camera to record the vehicle.

However, they were surprised at what they caught on film. The video captured the dog as she opened the car door on her own and climbed inside.

The family is now circulating posters of the dog and has contacted the local Humane Society.

So far, no one has claimed the canine.


203 posted on 12/05/2003 5:30:41 AM PST by BigWaveBetty
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To: mountaineer
Would those union guys/media tools be the same ones who want GWB to work with european nations, not shut them out like he did with the run up to the war on terror in Iraq?

Not surprizingly, regular folks know the score and aren't fooled.

Oh please M, write an opinon letter to your newspaper and remind them of all the help clinton gave to them.

204 posted on 12/05/2003 5:36:44 AM PST by BigWaveBetty
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To: Iowa Granny
It's a shame dems in Iowa won't have a chance to vote for the Clarkster.

During his speech, Clark issued a stinging critique of the Bush foreign policy, founded after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, on the new doctrine to strike first against terrorists or nations known to be harboring them.

“I think my first act is to put the pre-emptive strike doctrine into the shredder,” Clark said to applause from a crowd of more than 150 jammed into the college’s lounge.

But, but, what if Russians take over an airport somewhere?

Oh geez, here we go and again with the tears.

Clark got emotional after lashing out at Bush’s failure to publicly meet with the families of the more than 400 soldiers who have been killed in Iraq.[How does this lying scum get away with these lies?! BTW, clinton is the one who exploits grieving families in public.]

“He will go to a dozen fund-raisers for re-election, but he won’t go to one home and put his arms around a mother who has lost a child and that’s wrong,” Clark said, his eyes welling up with tears.

Later in the interview, Clark said during his 35-year military career he met often with the families of soldiers at their homes or at memorial services. [That was your job stupid, the president can't possibly meet with every family.]

“When you are in the military, you end up doing a lot of that and it’s all very personal,” he said.

Clark said Bush’s foreign policy has been contradictory and confrontational with his allies who otherwise would support an American president who properly used the bully pulpit.

“This administration is all bully and no pulpit,” he said. [Which clintonite gave you that one Wessie?]

Clark also criticized Bush’s dare to the insurgents in Iraq after the war ended.

“Only someone who hasn’t seen war firsthand would say something as factious as, ‘Bring them on,’ ” Clark said, quoting Bush. [How did this guy make general?]Link

205 posted on 12/05/2003 6:02:34 AM PST by BigWaveBetty
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To: BigWaveBetty
“He will go to a dozen fund-raisers for re-election, but he won’t go to one home and put his arms around a mother who has lost a child and that’s wrong,” Clark said, his eyes welling up with tears.

Haven't we heard of instances where Bush met with families privately, without cameras or reporters present, to express his condolences? To idiot Dems like Weasley, grief is just something to be exploited.

206 posted on 12/05/2003 6:15:40 AM PST by mountaineer
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To: *The GUILD
I'll be gone, until I'm back.

Thanks to everyone for your good thoughts and prayers for my father.

Cheers.
207 posted on 12/05/2003 6:19:51 AM PST by lodwick ( Wake up, America)
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To: lodwick
God Bless, JL.
208 posted on 12/05/2003 6:29:17 AM PST by Carolina
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To: lodwick
Godspeed...we'll miss ya, big time!!
209 posted on 12/05/2003 7:57:57 AM PST by daisyscarlett
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To: BigWaveBetty
Hey there...you sure are perky this a.m....must be the holiday spirit...Check out these shrimp on the WH Buffet...

A worker prepares a buffet of Christmas fare surrounded by an Alice in Wonderland doll and the Mad Hatter, in the State Dining Room of the White House in Washington, December 4, 2003 during a press preview of decorations and food for the holiday season. U.S. first lady Laura Bush hosted a press preview of the decorations at the White House, including 19 Christmas trees, 660 feet of garlands, 245 wreaths, 251 bows, 70,000 lights and 43 papier mache storybook figures, along with a giant gingerbread White House. REUTERS/Jason Reed

210 posted on 12/05/2003 8:11:43 AM PST by daisyscarlett
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To: daisyscarlett
And then there is this year's gingerbread house which is edible but never eaten...


211 posted on 12/05/2003 8:15:49 AM PST by daisyscarlett
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To: daisyscarlett
They'd better not let Barney get near that shrimp!
212 posted on 12/05/2003 8:20:59 AM PST by mountaineer
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To: daisyscarlett
must be the holiday spirit...

Yes and that nasty cold is almost gone!

Oh my, those shrimp look good... Looking forward to Barney Cam and seeing all the WH decorations.

Kudos to these college kids:

Hardball transcript Dec.1:

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Governor Dean, you often criticize the Bush administration for its secrecy. How do you reconcile this with the steps you have taken to seal away documents from your time in Vermont?
DEAN: Well...
MATTHEWS: Are you working for any campaign? Seriously.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Not at this time.
MATTHEWS: Not tonight or...
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I would be a Bush supporter.
MATTHEWS: You’re a Bush supporter?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I am a bush supporter.
MATTHEWS: OK, good nice to know that.
DEAN: (UNINTELLIGIBLE)
MATTHEW: I say that because this guy just put his t-shirt on right behind the candidate.
DEAN: Actually, to be honest with you, I am actually glad there are this many Republicans at Harvard.
(LAUGHTER)
DEAN: At least 15 percent, that’s fine.

213 posted on 12/05/2003 8:36:46 AM PST by BigWaveBetty
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To: daisyscarlett
That buffet looks scrumptious.
214 posted on 12/05/2003 9:20:02 AM PST by Carolina
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To: mountaineer
all the pro-Bush folks were "young."

Well... you are just a kid. :-)

215 posted on 12/05/2003 9:23:20 AM PST by BigWaveBetty
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To: BigWaveBetty
BARF ALERT; Hanoi Hillary to appear on all three network talkshows on Sunday....LINK
216 posted on 12/05/2003 4:30:20 PM PST by daisyscarlett
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To: daisyscarlett; lodwick

MERRY CHRISTMAS, EVERYONE

If you have little ones around the house, you'll want to save this one.

BLAST.COM

217 posted on 12/05/2003 4:37:06 PM PST by Timeout
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To: Timeout; All
Good Morning. 25 degrees here this morning. More bad weather is on the way.
218 posted on 12/06/2003 3:44:05 AM PST by Iowa Granny (One man with courage makes a majority..... Andrew Jackson)
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To: Iowa Granny
Looks like the worst of the storm hit D.C., NY and elsewhere, as we got barely 2" of snow. Whew!
219 posted on 12/06/2003 6:55:27 AM PST by mountaineer
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To: mountaineer
Cold here, too, but no snow (we only get a dusting every 10 years or so). This is the time of year I really miss the many times I spent Christmas skiing in the Sierra Nevada. Though I missed being home with my family, I have fond memories of snow and fireplaces and firs.

Fox just showed a beautiful picture of the White House with flakes drifting onto the Christmas decorations. Just in time for this year's "Barney Cam" to feature the little fella romping through the snow with his pal, Spotty.
220 posted on 12/06/2003 7:01:18 AM PST by Timeout
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