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The Guild 11-30-2003 The Dems' Changing Tune on Iraq; Past Quotes Reveal Hypocrisy
ChronWatch ^ | 11-30-2003 | Jean Shaw

Posted on 11/30/2003 8:16:47 AM PST by BigWaveBetty

It’s no secret that Democrats’ opposition to the war in Iraq has more to do with politics than principle, but the following collection of quotes (which has been making its way around the Internet) provide further proof.

''One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line.'' -- President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

''If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program.'' -- President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

''Iraq is a long way from [here] but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face.'' -- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Feb 18, 1998

''He [Saddam Hussein] will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983.'' -- Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

''[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs.'' -- Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin (D, MI), Tom Daschle (D), John Kerry (D, MA) and others Oct. 9, 1998

''Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process.'' -- Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

''Hussein has . . . chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies.'' -- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

''There is no doubt that . . . Saddam Hussein has invigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies.'' -- Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, December 5, 2001

''We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandated of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them.'' -- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

''We know that he [Saddam Hussein] has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country.'' -- Vice President Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

''Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power.'' -- Vice President Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

''We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction.'' -- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

''The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons. . . .'' -- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

''I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security.'' -- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

''There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years . . . We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction.'' -- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

''He [Saddam Hussein] has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do'' -- Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

''In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members. . . . It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons.'' -- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

''We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction.'' -- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

''Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime . . . He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation. . . . And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction. . . . So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real. . . .'' -- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003


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To: lodwick
You will survive with Dial up for a week or two.

Chicken Pox in adults is nothing to shake a stick at. Serious stuff.

Kudos to you, for heading out to do the chores. Dial liquid hand soap helps to take the manure smell off if you use it to shower with.

The guest Deer Hunters have arrived here. 2 have pulled their motor home into our machine shed. Others,, not sure how many are settling into a motel 20 miles away.

The snow is coming down hard. Traffic is moving slowly on the highway in front of our house. Travel will probably be limited overnight and into morning.
181 posted on 12/04/2003 8:18:06 PM PST by Iowa Granny (One man with courage makes a majority..... Andrew Jackson)
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To: All
Good Morning. Traffic is moving, but not at the normal pace. Snow plows were out clearing the intersection when I got up at 5:00.
182 posted on 12/05/2003 4:17:28 AM PST by Iowa Granny (One man with courage makes a majority..... Andrew Jackson)
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To: Iowa Granny
Mornin', IG. I have a 12-year-old here who is green with jealousy. He loves snow and we get it here maybe twice a year. Skiing for him is the Holy Grail.

Take care!

183 posted on 12/05/2003 4:24:19 AM PST by Carolina
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To: lodwick
So sorry to hear about your dad's accident. Praying he'll be ok.
184 posted on 12/05/2003 4:32:23 AM PST by BigWaveBetty
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To: mountaineer
Good job standing up for our president against the poo-poo heads. Thanks!
185 posted on 12/05/2003 4:35:03 AM PST by BigWaveBetty
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To: BigWaveBetty
My pleasure. One funny thing about the protest: my brother is a TV news photog in Pgh., but he wasn't assigned to cover the Bush visit. So he told his fellow cameraman to look for his sister (I assume he described me to the fellow). When the photographer returned to the TV station, he said I must not have been there, because all the pro-Bush folks were "young." LOL
186 posted on 12/05/2003 4:43:26 AM PST by mountaineer
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To: Carolina
We're expecting 2-6 inches by tomorrow; I'll be happy to wrap it all up and send it to your son!
187 posted on 12/05/2003 4:45:05 AM PST by mountaineer
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To: mountaineer
When the photographer returned to the TV station, he said I must not have been there, because all the pro-Bush folks were "young." LOL

Well, there you go. FReeping keeps you young.

188 posted on 12/05/2003 4:45:11 AM PST by Carolina
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To: mountaineer; BigWaveBetty
What would The Guild be without some pearls. Here's Salvador Assael's collection designed by Prince Dmitri of Yugoslavia.


189 posted on 12/05/2003 4:47:25 AM PST by Carolina
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To: mountaineer
We're expecting 2-6 inches by tomorrow; I'll be happy to wrap it all up and send it to your son!

We're headed your way in January for a little skiing. We love Snowshoe.

190 posted on 12/05/2003 4:50:07 AM PST by Carolina
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To: Carolina
Lovely collection of pearls.

Not much skiing here... a little cross country stuff, but it's too flat for anything else.
191 posted on 12/05/2003 4:53:19 AM PST by Iowa Granny (One man with courage makes a majority..... Andrew Jackson)
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From the WashPost:

The administration is trying to undo regulations that had been in the works to force power plants to sharply reduce mercury emissions within three years by installing expensive, state-of-the-art equipment.

Regulations that had been in the works?! Oh, by that the WashPost means that clinton did nothing for eight years then set this bomb to go off for President Bush.

By reclassifying its category, mercury emissions would be subject to a mandatory "cap and trade" program, similar to the successful program to combat acid rain that was begun in 1990. It would allow utilities to buy emission "credits" from cleaner-operating plants to meet an overall industry target.

Critics charge that the net effect of the move would be to require smaller reductions in mercury emissions that otherwise could be achieved and add nearly a decade to the time it would take the industry to implement mercury reduction technology.

"This allows industry to pollute more and longer," said Frank O'Donnell of the Clean Air Trust. "It takes the Clear Skies plan and puts a big Christmas bow around it for industry polluters."

Sorry wack-o enviromentalists but you just exposed yourselves again! The Kyoto Treaty works on the same "credit" principal. But that you want us to sign. Pitiful hypocrites.

192 posted on 12/05/2003 4:55:47 AM PST by BigWaveBetty
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To: Carolina
I want them all.
193 posted on 12/05/2003 4:57:33 AM PST by BigWaveBetty
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Dems getting on the media's bad side?

THE Democrats brought 500 journalists into Boston to check out the media facilities for the party's July presidential convention - but there weren't any. There's barely room in the Fleet Center for the delegates. [And it's in such a lovely neighborhood, too!]

Dem honchos said the press might have to use a parking lot, giant tents, office buildings or a mix of them all. No one is sure which yet because money is a problem, as the visiting journos learned from a front-page story in yesterday's Boston Herald. (The situation is the opposite in New York, which is doing just fine raising the bucks to host the Republicans next summer.) What's more, insiders say Boston is short of hotel rooms.

Instead of showing the nonexistent facilities, the Dems yesterday served up Bush-bashing speeches, endured in stony silence by the press. Boston convention CEO Rod O'Connor even took a swipe at New York, saying: "All indications are that the Republicans have gone to New York to exploit a terrible moment in our history." Of course the Dems also contemplated coming here - and probably should have. (PageSix)

194 posted on 12/05/2003 4:57:53 AM PST by mountaineer
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To: Iowa Granny
Hey, how 'bout this for your New Year's Eve tiara?


195 posted on 12/05/2003 4:58:11 AM PST by Carolina
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To: BigWaveBetty
What a joke. Hillary, in receiving her "oceans" award the other night, claimed, "Just today the administration decided they would ease up on rules governing mercury emissions." What it all means is where the Clinton administration dithered on certain issues, the Bush administration has acted decisively.

Case in the point, the steel tariffs. Clinton promised the steelworkers in Weirton, W.Va., 1992 he'd do something for them. He never did. Completely ignored their crying about illegal foreign steel dumping. Bush was elected, met with steel industry reps (something Clinton never did) and imposed a few select tariffs to help get them on their feet. Now that he's lifted those tariffs, the steelworkers are crying that he's betrayed them, not kept his promise, something they'll remember in Nov. 2004 - like the good Dems who handed Hillary her environmental award, they forget that it was her husband and his party who never did anything for them, but sure made a good show of claiming credit for having solved the problem.

196 posted on 12/05/2003 5:07:19 AM PST by mountaineer
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To: Carolina
I would like to read the personality analysis of the person who wears that tiara.
197 posted on 12/05/2003 5:07:52 AM PST by Iowa Granny (One man with courage makes a majority..... Andrew Jackson)
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
December 5, 2003 -- DID Gwyneth Paltrow secretly get married to lover Chris Martin? The pregnant star was sporting an engagement and a wedding ring during Monday night's Music Has Power Award ceremonies at Lincoln Center. "The engagement ring was turned around so that the diamond was facing the inside of her hand and there was a platinum wedding band underneath," says our spy. A Hollywood insider said, "Gwyneth is not the kind of person to get pregnant out of wedlock." [But anything else goes] A rep for the secretive Paltrow didn't return calls or emails, but spies say there is a wedding reception for "an Oscar-winning actress" Sunday at 60 Thompson Hotel. PageSix
198 posted on 12/05/2003 5:16:51 AM PST by BigWaveBetty
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To: mountaineer
So what is the thinking in WV about lifting the tariffs? Do they remember how clinton was a big help?
199 posted on 12/05/2003 5:18:41 AM PST by BigWaveBetty
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To: mountaineer
Ha-ha!

December 5, 2003 -- BARBRA Streisand has lost big in her $10 million suit against environmentalist Kenneth Adelman, who took aerial photos of her Malibu beach house as part of a project on coastal erosion. Streisand claimed her privacy had been invaded, but the judge threw her case out and indicated he might make her pay Adelman's legal costs. [LOL!!!] In a Web site message, Adelman said the ruling sends a message to "a celebrity who believes her personal interests are more important [than] the public's constitutional right to free speech." (PageSix)

200 posted on 12/05/2003 5:20:47 AM PST by BigWaveBetty
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