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Trump Supporters Distrust Science. We Need New Ways to Engage.
Undark ^ | Dec 18, 2025 | Paul M. Sutter

Posted on 12/31/2025 7:25:01 AM PST by fwdude

It’s not quite burning-scientists-at-the-stake bad, but it’s close — or at least feels that way. President Donald Trump’s administration is openly waging war against universities, closing independent science review panels, funding fewer grants, and shutting down or raising concerns about the closure of important centers of government research (even though in some cases, they’re probably not supposed to). The evidence is now clear that the modern American structure of science can no longer survive as an apolitical entity that enjoys consistent, bipartisan support. Science is now suffering a generational catastrophe, not just in terms of funding, but in terms of political and public support.

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Oh the humanity!!

Oh Noes!

1 posted on 12/31/2025 7:25:01 AM PST by fwdude
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The ‘science’ to which they refer believes being ‘gay’ is healthy, thinks a man can ‘become a woman,’ and that a ‘man’ can give birth.


2 posted on 12/31/2025 7:26:07 AM PST by fwdude (Why is there a "far/radical right," but damned if they'll admit that there is a far/radical left)
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“...Science is now suffering a generational catastrophe...”

Yep ‘Rats made The Science DIE....


3 posted on 12/31/2025 7:26:33 AM PST by Paladin2 (YMMV)
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To: fwdude

“New ways to engage” - Censorship and Jail Time - see UK

As to US Conservatives, we trust science, what we don’t trust are the New Age RELIGIONS of the Left, starting with Climate Change, but also Vaccines and other drugs, particularly since they FUND THE LEFT (via TV advertising for starters).


4 posted on 12/31/2025 7:28:03 AM PST by BobL (Trusting one's doctor is the #1 health mistake one can make.)
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Trump Supporters Distrust Science Agenda-Driven Research Conducted in the Name of Science (and especially when done at taxpayer expense).

Fixed it for them.

5 posted on 12/31/2025 7:28:29 AM PST by alancarp (George Orwell was an optimist.)
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To: fwdude

Uh no. The left weaponized science and turned it into propaganda and called it “settled” which is an antonym for science.

The left doesn’t seek knowledge. It demands we agree with with their current version of it.


6 posted on 12/31/2025 7:31:23 AM PST by Whatever Works
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I trust science.

It’s the scientist and their bias we must question.


7 posted on 12/31/2025 7:31:39 AM PST by Zack Attack
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Cow Poly Woketard Twirp eternal grad student simpers we need to understand that chix have dix


8 posted on 12/31/2025 7:34:01 AM PST by Regulator (It's fraud, Jim)
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The left weaponized science and turned it into propaganda and called it “settled” which is an antonym for science.

Exactly. But they've also turned 'science' into a money-laundering operation. Guess who the recipients are.

9 posted on 12/31/2025 7:34:11 AM PST by fwdude (Why is there a "far/radical right," but damned if they'll admit that there is a far/radical left)
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I don't trust any science that denies the following:


10 posted on 12/31/2025 7:34:23 AM PST by Sirius Lee ("Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.)
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Science has been used for political purposes for a long time.

Soviet Russia and Nazi Germany were two examples.

The problem is that “big science” requires big money—and that means government involvement.

Any leftist controlled government will have scientists spewing out leftist propaganda.


11 posted on 12/31/2025 7:34:29 AM PST by cgbg ("Your identity is how power treats you.")
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Soviet science is what they are protecting. The science that says the chromosomes don’t matter?


12 posted on 12/31/2025 7:35:39 AM PST by IDFbunny (Crimea was never Ukraine.)
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I distrust junk science.

Beyond that, the true Scientific Method does not ask for "trust". It only asks that one rely on evidence, critical review and reproducibility.

Asking one to "trust the science" is the antithisis of the Scientific Method.

13 posted on 12/31/2025 7:36:45 AM PST by FreeReign
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This article is Orwellian.

There are only two sexes.
There is no gay gene.
Human life begins at the exact moment the eggs and sperm meet (at inception).
You can get COVID or die of COVID even if you’re vaccinated.
You can spread COVID even if you’re vaccinated.
A person who has had COVID has better immunity against it than a person who has only been vaccinated.

It seems to me that only leftist ideologues don’t believe the above scientific facts.


14 posted on 12/31/2025 7:39:24 AM PST by Ge0ffrey
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I don’t distrust science, I distrust “experts” who deliberately and most often callously promote “political science” as science. That’s not just wrong, it is in many instances pure evil.


15 posted on 12/31/2025 7:39:45 AM PST by glennaro (2025: The year of America's rebirth as a Great (and Free) Republic)
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To: fwdude

We do not distrust science.

We distrust $$$cience.


16 posted on 12/31/2025 7:43:04 AM PST by PortugeeJoe
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can no longer survive as an apolitical entity that enjoys consistent, bipartisan support

This is the problem. The article is a lie. Modern science is NOT apolitical, and the consistent, bipartisan support comes from whoever can make a buck on it.

REAL scientists know the science is NEVER settled. As Feynman said in the Messenger Lectures, "You can never prove that a theory is right, you can only prove that it's wrong."
17 posted on 12/31/2025 7:44:45 AM PST by BikerJoe
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[[ It’s not quite burning-scientists-at-the-stake bad, but it’s close — or at least feels that way... Science is now suffering a generational catastrophe, not just in terms of funding, but in terms of political and public support.]]

Drama queen much paulie? Hope you have a comfortable fainting couch?


18 posted on 12/31/2025 7:45:33 AM PST by Bob434 (Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana)
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Science is a process.

When you support stopping the process by proclaiming it is unreviewable, you are not performing science. It seems the left has canceled actual science.

19 posted on 12/31/2025 7:48:32 AM PST by Sgt_Schultze (When your business model depends on slave labor, you're always going to need more slaves.)
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It’s not quite burning-scientists-at-the-stake bad, but it’s close — or at least feels that way.

There's a free mental health clinic at the corner of Lilac and East Valley.

Seriously, Paul ... you'll get the help you so desperately need.

20 posted on 12/31/2025 7:51:53 AM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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