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Moscow Meeting Shock: USA abandons Europe & Ukraine | Ray MacGovern & Larry Johnson
Neutrality Studies ^ | 12/4/2025 | Ray McGovern, Larry Johnson

Posted on 12/04/2025 9:18:09 AM PST by SaxxonWoods

"The US delegation just met with Vladimir Putin and his staff in Moscow and although there is no peace agreement yet, we seem to be one step closer to some form of “compromise” as the Russian TASS news agency puts it."

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To: SaxxonWoods

This is an existential crisis for the Neo-marxists of Davos, Brussels, and London.


21 posted on 12/04/2025 10:23:41 AM PST by PGR88
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands
Let's just hope that Latvia doesn't start a war with Russia by drawing those peaceful Russia forces into their country where some of them can be killed by the warmongering Latvians.

Or let's hope MI6 doesn't start a war with Russia, using Latvia as its sucker-proxy.

22 posted on 12/04/2025 10:25:31 AM PST by PGR88
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To: Jim Noble

Trump doesn’t want to be blamed for what’s coming, but he’s going to catch some verbal shrapnel.


23 posted on 12/04/2025 10:28:26 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (Annnd....TRUMP IS RIGHT AGAIN.)
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To: SaxxonWoods

Two authors- McGovern and Johnson - that can’t be trusted as far as you could throw them.
McGovern is linked to Russia Today (no surprise.)
Both are associated associated with the John Kerry campaign Valerie Plame super dooper deep cover CIA spy nonsense. Valerie Plame was the wife of the Tea swilling US ambassador to Gabon, Joe Wilson. He was full of himself and into mining ventures in Africa, and formerly married to a French operative who was tight with the family of the corrupt president Omar Bongo of Gabon. Plame was a n activist for Net Zero like Obama, and both got book deals and a movie deal to help finance her run for congress.


24 posted on 12/04/2025 10:36:42 AM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: JonPreston

Now that Trump has finally learned the truth about Ukraine, he will hopefully move quickly to keep his campaign promise and end this pointless war. If he doesn’t, he will lose a lot of MAGA votes.


25 posted on 12/04/2025 10:44:47 AM PST by phil00071
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To: JonPreston

Degenerate Europe is a far bigger menace to MAGA supporters than Russia ever was.


26 posted on 12/04/2025 11:30:26 AM PST by Socon-Econ (adi)
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To: AAABEST

Nah…despising things Russian has always been a good plan.

I am sure there are some nice people there, but from a government and military point of view they have been a mess for more than 100 years. The people there do not seem to understand or care.


27 posted on 12/04/2025 11:34:53 AM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: SaxxonWoods

Maybe its just me, but the US is not responsible for all of Europe and if it is, they need to start kissing our asses all the time, wherever and whenever we ask.


28 posted on 12/04/2025 11:41:36 AM PST by packrat35 (“When discourse ends, violence begins.” – Charlie Kirk, and they killed him anyway)
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To: packrat35

Europe will always be there for us, when they need us.


29 posted on 12/04/2025 11:44:07 AM PST by dfwgator ("I am Charlie Kirk!")
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To: imabadboy99

They are in Venezuela! The Drug Capital of the world! LOL


30 posted on 12/04/2025 11:48:11 AM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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To: Socon-Econ; phil00071

It has damaged him. He can get it all back before the midterms, but he has to finish this up quickly, one way or the other


31 posted on 12/04/2025 11:48:22 AM PST by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: dfwgator
Europe will always be there for us, when they need us

LOL

32 posted on 12/04/2025 11:54:12 AM PST by Jim Noble
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To: dfwgator

Well played!


33 posted on 12/04/2025 11:55:25 AM PST by packrat35 (“When discourse ends, violence begins.” – Charlie Kirk, and they killed him anyway)
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To: SaxxonWoods

It appears to be Yalta all over again. Just give them what they want and they will behave.....


34 posted on 12/04/2025 12:26:14 PM PST by Midwesterner53
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To: packrat35

I’ve had a lot of exposure to Europeans, my dad was born there but adopted America, or America adopted him, however you want to look at it. It used to be a nice place to visit, now that is over, imo.


35 posted on 12/04/2025 12:31:16 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (Annnd....TRUMP IS RIGHT AGAIN.)
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To: SaxxonWoods
We have to invade Venezuela now so as to not look weak! I hope we got plenty of agent orange left over from Viet Nam. Come on neocons, you can do it!

South Vietnam (Republic of Vietnam) had a land area of approximately 67,108 square miles
Texas has a land area of 261,258.6 square miles
Venezuela is approximately 352,143 square miles

36 posted on 12/04/2025 1:21:47 PM PST by Karl Spooner
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To: SaxxonWoods
Take no offense from me. My remark about lengthy videos is a remark about lengthy videos. My bride and I much prefer reading to listening.
37 posted on 12/04/2025 2:30:39 PM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

“Let’s just hope that Latvia doesn’t start a war with Russia by drawing those peaceful Russia forces into their country where some of them can be killed by the warmongering Latvians.”

They’re certainly talking that way, with their unprovoked threats to Kaliningrad and to Russia shipping in international waters. Be a real shame if they got themselves ‘consumed’ again by their huge neighbor.


38 posted on 12/04/2025 4:36:35 PM PST by BobL (Trusting one's doctor is the #1 health mistake one can make.)
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To: SaxxonWoods

“And yet you want to know what they said. Now that’s funny. If you looked up their backgrounds you might be more interested in their take.”

For whatever reason, YouTube permits accurate information on the Ukraine War to be posted...it’s just up to people to actually watch it and get informed, rather than simply regurgitating Western Media lies.


39 posted on 12/04/2025 4:38:40 PM PST by BobL (Trusting one's doctor is the #1 health mistake one can make.)
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To: dfwgator

“Europe will always be there for us, when they need us.”

For two or three more decades...then they’ll ‘transition’ and be our enemy.


40 posted on 12/04/2025 4:41:38 PM PST by BobL (Trusting one's doctor is the #1 health mistake one can make.)
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