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"Mr. President, you're looking at a decision President Roosevelt made in 1943, a decision many of us disagreed with at the time." Stimson explained what Truman was discovering. Beginning in 1942, intelligence reports had reached the Roosevelt administration about Nazi extermination camps. Initially, the reports were fragmentary and hard to verify, but by mid 1943, the evidence was overwhelming and undeniable. Jewish refugees who had escaped Poland brought firsthand testimony. Polish resistance fighters provided detailed information. Aerial reconnaissance photographs showed the camps. British intelligence confirmed the reports. The Nazi regime was systematically murdering millions of Jews, Roma, disabled people,political prisoners, and others in industrial-cale killing facilities. The question then became, what should the Allies do about it? Jewish organizations in America and Britain begged Roosevelt and Churchill to bomb the railway lines leading to the camps, particularly to Auschwitz Burkenau, the largest killing center. The argument was straightforward. Destroy the rail lines and you disrupt the Nazis ability to transport victims to the gas chambers. The map also influenced Truman's approach to the creation of Israel. In 1947 and 1948, Truman faced enormous pressure from the State Department and military advisers not to support the establishment of a Jewish state in Palestine. They argued it would alienate Arab nations and threaten American oil interests. But Truman remembered Roosevelt's map. He remembered the railway lines that could have been bombed and weren't. He remembered the tens of thousands who died while America looked away. and Truman decided he would not repeat Roosevelt's take of letting political calculations override moral imperatives. Against the advice of almost his entire foreign policy establishment, Truman recognized Israel 11 minutes after it declaredindependence on May 14th, 1948. When his advisers asked him why he was taking such a politically risky position, Truman's response was blunt. I've seen what happens when we choose political convenience over doing what's right. I won't do it again. He never mentioned Roosevelt's map publicly, but those close to Truman knew it had profoundly affected his thinking about Jewish issues and humanitarian interventions. The discovery of Roosevelt's map also changed how Truman viewed his predecessor's legacy.
1 posted on 11/17/2025 6:04:25 AM PST by silent majority rising
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Sounds like clickbait to me.


2 posted on 11/17/2025 6:06:15 AM PST by bwest
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Both were Democrats.


3 posted on 11/17/2025 6:07:30 AM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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I don’t know about clickbait, but I never believed the story [i.e., “LIE”] that the Allies didn’t know anything about the DEATH CAMPS before soldiers stumbled upon them.

I’ll check out the vid later.


4 posted on 11/17/2025 6:08:04 AM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 "/!i!! &@$%&*(@ -')
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This is so secret I heard about it before there was an internet.

My father used get angry about it.

5 posted on 11/17/2025 6:08:24 AM PST by Salman (It's not a slippery slope if it was part of the program all along.)
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One of the replies ...

Roosevelt not only allowed the murder of Jews in Concentration Camps, He refused, the 1939, MS St. Louis, a luxury liner that left Hamburg Germany with Nine Hundred and thirty German Jewish refugees. That was headed for Cuba for protection. Roosevelt would not intervene, so the ship departed for Florida with the ~1,000 Jews and Roosevelt allowed Florida to refuse the ship to dock. Then Canada also refused the ship portage. the ship returned to Europe.

Another reply mentions the movie made about the above ... Voyage of the D@mned.

Heartbreaking.


6 posted on 11/17/2025 6:10:50 AM PST by Jane Long (Jesus is Lord!)
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They certainly were aware that Jews in Europe were in peril, as soon as 1939, when they turned away the SS St. Louis.


7 posted on 11/17/2025 6:11:09 AM PST by dfwgator ("I am Charlie Kirk!")
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Rather telling that Roosevelt, Churchill and Stalin all knew about the camps and did nothing. Then imagine their shock and outrage when they were “discovered”.


8 posted on 11/17/2025 6:11:37 AM PST by AppyPappy (They don't call you a Nazi because they think you are one. They do it to justify violence. )
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So, precisely what was the “the sick political calculation behind Roosevelt’s decision” ?


12 posted on 11/17/2025 6:15:43 AM PST by JesusIsLord
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“bomb the railway lines leading to the camps”

Railway lines could typically be repaired in hours by the Germans.


20 posted on 11/17/2025 6:24:48 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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Bombing rail lines would have stopped nothing. The Germans were very good at quickly repairing them. And if they didn’t have camps and trains, they would have simply machine gunned their victims in a handy ravine (Babi Yar). Hitler was singularly focused on wiping the Jews out and nothing short of the complete destruction of the Nazi war machine would stop him.


25 posted on 11/17/2025 6:27:06 AM PST by Flag_This (They're lying.)
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Another AI generated and narrated BS “history” video. There have been a plague of these lately - every single one is 99%+ crap. They never give a verifiable source and always use the word “shocking.” Endlessly repetitive with laughable AI generated title page artwork.

Once you click on one, YouTube will recommend other dishonest videos of this identical type - but hiding behind a new channel name. If it was anything other than clickbait, they would be proud of their work and stick with the same channel name. Instead, they hide from their previous work.

Please stop posting this garbage - it’s an insult to viewers - and to history.


26 posted on 11/17/2025 6:28:52 AM PST by FirstFlaBn
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Antisemitism was embedded in Christian religions right up until the 20th century... And Roosevelt was an Antisemite. A lot of people were... But progressive thinking changed those racist beliefs, like it changed a lot of racist beliefs that existed in the early part of the 20th century.

My own family modified their beliefs... My great great grandfather was a Scottish Presbyterian Free Mason. He married my Catholic great great grandmother under the condition that all of their children be raised as Catholics. In a letter one of my granduncles sent back from Scotland during World War 2, to another of my granduncles, he expresses that their father (my great great grandfather) would be rolling in his grave if he witnessed how many Jewish refugees there were in Scotland. So my great great grandfather obviously an antisemite, his Catholic sons not so much so. But lots of Catholics were brought up being antisemitic too.

My Grandfather made sure that my father wasn’t a antisemite or a racist and my father passed that down to us, his children. All people are equal... And should be treated as equals.

FDR was just a product of his upbringing... Lots of world leaders knew the holocaust was happening... Their ability to do anything was limited... For instance... If you bombed passenger railways and railway stations that had Jews being transported you would’ve killed Jews and maybe, just maybe, saved some while doing so... But Hitler would’ve used that against the allies by claiming they were killing innocent people.

If FDR were alive today, I doubt that he would be an antisemite.


28 posted on 11/17/2025 6:31:43 AM PST by jerod (Nazis were essentially Socialist in Hugo Boss uniforms... Get over it!)
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In June 1940, with a German invasion expected at any moment, Prime Minister Winston Churchill decided to arrest every German and Austrian in the country and send them all to concentration camps. To those who reminded him that many of these people were Jewish refugees, he responded briefly and memorably: “Collar the lot!”

General Sikorski feared that other exiled Polish politicians were plotting against him, so he opened a camp at Rothesay, on the Isle of Bute, just thirty miles from Glasgow, for those he worried would threaten his authority. He made no secret of his intentions, explaining at a meeting of the Polish National Council in London on July 18, 1940, “There is no Polish judiciary. Those who conspire will be sent to a concentration camp.”

https://jacobin.com/2017/05/uk-concentration-camps-wwii-poland-internment-prisoners


31 posted on 11/17/2025 6:40:59 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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Have you clicked on your link? Nothing there. Who created the video?

Old news. US apathy is well known and documented. Shameful for sure but wasn’t the first time and hasn’t been the last.


33 posted on 11/17/2025 6:43:38 AM PST by FreedomNotSafety
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The Nazis killed many, probably more Jews (and Poles, Russians, Roma, suspected partisans, random civilians) outside the concentration camps than in them. E.g. 20,000 Polish officers at Katyn. Bombing rail lines would not have made a difference, they are quite easy to fix.


34 posted on 11/17/2025 6:45:34 AM PST by brookwood (First the left said it was OK to steal. Next they said it was OK to kill.)
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“As early as May 1942, and again in June, the BBC reported the mass murder of Polish Jews by the Nazis.”

https://holocaust.com.au/the-facts/the-outbreak-of-world-war-ii-and-the-war-against-the-jews/what-the-allies-knew/


35 posted on 11/17/2025 6:47:38 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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Democraps don’t like Jews, but Jews like democraps. It’s one of the great mysteries of modern times.


36 posted on 11/17/2025 6:48:30 AM PST by Sirius Lee ("Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.d)
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In defense of Roosevelt and Churchill, bombing the concentration camps would do little good. The Nazis would have found other means to engage in mass murder. It was more important to destroy factories, munitions, and infrastructure.

There is in FDR's case another motivation: he had a substantial portion of the population that were convinced that Jewish interests started World War II. For 20 years before Pearl Harbor, there were prominent people like Henry Ford, Father Charles Coughlin, and Charles Lindbergh who spoke against Jewish power in politics and international affairs. While Ford toned down his attacks for business reasons and the Catholic hierarchy silenced Coughlin, the America First movement, for which Lindbergh was a spokesman, had a massive following. Future Presidents John Kennedy and Gerald Ford were members of America First. The Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor pushed the United States into World War II, and Hitler obliged the American interventionists by declaring war against the U.S. immediately after Pearl Harbor.

Any emphasis on the plight of European Jews would have resurrected anti-Semitic feelings in the country. FDR knew this and did not want to take the risk.

46 posted on 11/17/2025 7:07:37 AM PST by Wallace T.
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Strategically that’s the right move. It’s cold, but that’s war for you. You can’t bomb the camps, you’ll mostly be doing Germany’s killing for them. Rail lines are easy to replace. And the fact is Germany wasted a lot of man power and material on those camps. And that’s really where the cold calculation comes in. Every soldier, every piece of steel, every ounce of diesel used to keep those camps going was one less on the front line. From a winning the war perspective discouraging the Holocaust would be bad. Not the kind of decision that one would feel good about, but the right call.


48 posted on 11/17/2025 7:12:14 AM PST by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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Ten years after Yalta, the State Department released the transcript of FDR’s conversations with Stalin–but several lines were censored because State feared it would harm Roosevelt’s image if the public knew what he said about Jews.

U.S. News and World Report revealed the unpleasant truth: when FDR mentioned he would soon be seeing Saudi Arabian leader Ibn Saud, Stalin asked if he intended to make any concessions to the king, and “the President replied that there was only one concession he thought he might offer and that was to give him the six million Jews in the United States.”

51 posted on 11/17/2025 7:15:41 AM PST by montag813
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