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Ukraine Energy Grid Near Collapse.
Military Summary Channrl ^ | 8 Nov 25 | Dima

Posted on 11/08/2025 6:37:55 AM PST by delta7

Energy Grid Near Collapse🚨⚡️Officers Urge Zelensky to Withdraw from Pokrovsk🏃‍♂️💨MS For 2025.11.08


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KEYWORDS: again; andputinisdying; proxywar; putinthewarpig; ukraine; war; welfarewar
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To: Owen

Western MSM media still hasn’t come to grips with senile Joe’s “Ukraine is winning narrative”...they bought the lies and will never admit they were hoodwinked.

I recently saw a western misinformation clip on how Ukraine will take back Crimea!???? any day now! Even the usual Russia’s economy is collapsing and how the 19th Sanctions package is going work , nevermind the past 18 failed.

Fools.


21 posted on 11/08/2025 7:40:12 AM PST by delta7
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To: delta7

The Russians would earn much goodwill by mounting an aggressive effort to trade their ceasing infrastructure attacks for Ukraine doing the same.


22 posted on 11/08/2025 7:42:04 AM PST by Socon-Econ (adi)
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time
“It surely seems like a lesson is in this somewhere. Time will tell.

I follow the ex-military Americans, they have a good network and no reason to lie. When either side does something notable they say so. I compare their takes to others. Russia opened Pokrovsk to media from both sides, guess why. When has Ukraine done such a thing ever?

23 posted on 11/08/2025 7:48:33 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (Annnd....TRUMP IS RIGHT AGAIN.)
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To: SaxxonWoods

The most horrific part


Detailed analysis of medical supplies being sent is the horrific part. Near 250,000 Prosthesis ( fake limbs) have been sent over to Ukraine the past year.

The numbers highlight the massive damage Vlad’s artillery hammer has done. Prosthesis is the signature of artillery destruction....which Vlad now has over a 20:1 artillery advantage. ( it was 7:1).

Vlad’s missile attack last night was the largest ever recorded, as of this afternoon, I see no mention in western MSM about the historic strike.Post war analysis on Ukraine’s war losses will be epic....


24 posted on 11/08/2025 7:53:05 AM PST by delta7
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To: Owen

Russia has oil and oil is everything. There will be no collapse.


Russia is ranked number one in the world’s natural resources, $$$ 75 trillion.

https://worldostats.com/country-stats/richest-countries-by-natural-resources/

Russia– $75 trillion
USA – $45 trillion
Saudi Arabia– $34 trillion
Canada– $33 trillion
Iran– $27 trillion
China– $23 trillion

They have much of what the West needs. Best President Trump opens full Trade and Commerce with Russia and gets the disastrous world commerce back to normal....I am sure Vlad will give us a deep discount.


25 posted on 11/08/2025 7:59:13 AM PST by delta7
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To: delta7

It was only a matter of attrition and time.


26 posted on 11/08/2025 8:05:55 AM PST by tennmountainman ( (“Less propaganda would be appreciated.” JimRobr 12-2-2023 DITTO)
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To: SaxxonWoods
I follow the ex-military Americans, they have a good network and no reason to lie.

You'd have to be more specific for this comment to resonate.

Both Col. McGregor and Gen. Hodges are ex-military Americans and they are diametrically opposed on Ukraine.

27 posted on 11/08/2025 8:07:42 AM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: SaxxonWoods
---- "Russia opened Pokrovsk to media from both sides, guess why. When has Ukraine done such a thing ever?"

It seems, from the outset, that this war -- I repeat, not for you but others who might come along -- is between officially non-NATO Ukraine and non-NATO Russia, which Secretary Rubio has publicly acklnowlegded to be a "proxy war." Between NATO nations and Russia, using Ukraine.

Why did Putin play the "hand" which you mention above? Because he could. Why did Zelensky reject the play? Because he had to. A short ceasefire to allow journalists to poke around for views -- even varying views -- is something this particular war has seemed to have had as a missing element.

Recall the official "embedded" journalists in the Iraq and Afghanistan adventures? So where are those journalists these last several years? As much as hugely destructive to men and materiel and whole cities on both sides, this war has been destructive to "reporting" other than through the cottage industry of "I'll tell you what you want to hear" wholly linked to AdSense, Patreon, BuyMeACoffee and "merch" shops, not to mention much more.

The infection -- for that is what I see is as -- of the now-obscure "The Grand Chessboard: American Primacy And Its Geostrategic Imperatives" by Carter advisor and lifelong Democrat, Zbigniew Brzezinski, is that there are "geopolitical imperatives." Nations, groups, families, associations have interests. When those interests change, alliances change. An "imperative" by an influential Democrat has now brought "conservatives" like Kristol to endorse a socialist in the NYC election, and more.

We are indeed at war. It is a war of words. As in:

Barack Obama, conservative Washington Post, 22 November 2019.

In answer to the specific question: "When has Ukraine done such a thing ever?" To the best of my knowledge, never. But lots of photo ops and meetings and such, even those "buy-partisan" meetings like:

If Secretary Rubio was speaking accurately about this being a "proxy war," then one might want to consider what it would be to lose a proxy war. Or even a war. This Vietnam-era old guy remembers Operation Frequent Wind. Many don't recognize the name....

28 posted on 11/08/2025 8:08:44 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: delta7

Wow, thanks for that info. Zelensky recently opened the border to allow Ukrainians to travel, it’s been closed for quite a while. 100,000 young men immediately left the country.


29 posted on 11/08/2025 8:15:32 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (Annnd....TRUMP IS RIGHT AGAIN.)
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

Ah yes, with the iconic helicopter photo of people on top of a building jamming into the copter.


30 posted on 11/08/2025 8:18:26 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (Annnd....TRUMP IS RIGHT AGAIN.)
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

Debating an issue is fine; it helps to reveals truths. But narrative pushing is an attempt to obscure truths and should be treated as such.


31 posted on 11/08/2025 8:20:22 AM PST by Starboard
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To: delta7

Good! When it collapses completely, Ukraine will be forced to surrender and Trump won’t have to waste anymore time on it or give anymore weapons to Ukraine through Europe.


32 posted on 11/08/2025 8:22:53 AM PST by Kazan
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To: Starboard
--- "narrative pushing"

Nice phrase. I had not thought of it in that way, but that is most perceptive. Kudos.

33 posted on 11/08/2025 8:26:16 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: mac_truck

I listen and compare them to each other to see where them come together or move apart, partial list:

Daniel Davis
Gen. John Mearsheimer
Alexander Mercouris
Willy OAM
Plus all the mappers, they are always somewhat different due how quickly they update but comparing them is good.


34 posted on 11/08/2025 8:32:02 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (Annnd....TRUMP IS RIGHT AGAIN.)
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To: mac_truck; SaxxonWoods
--- "Both Col. McGregor and Gen. Hodges are ex-military Americans and they are diametrically opposed on Ukraine."

A hotlink to consider:

Two retired generals, retired ambassador, all with Florida ties: Trump is unfit to lead Tallahassee Democrat, Donald M. Campbell, F. Ben Hodges and Robert A. Mandell, 29 October 2020

Mentioning the above to a Floridian or two really peeved them somethin' fierce....
35 posted on 11/08/2025 8:34:22 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: mac_truck

Oh, and MacGregor, though he has become more interested in telling old stories about other wars and comparing them to this one, etc. Some of the people who appear with him are really good though, especially the non-Americans.


36 posted on 11/08/2025 8:35:43 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (Annnd....TRUMP IS RIGHT AGAIN.)
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To: House Atreides

We are winning.

37 posted on 11/08/2025 8:41:51 AM PST by McGruff
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To: Starboard

“Debating an issue is fine; it helps to reveals truths. But narrative pushing is an attempt to obscure truths and should be treated as such.”

Yes, I listen and compare statements to the mappers. Over time you can get a pretty good picture. The two main takeaways right now are Ukraine’s troop shortage with no way to change it and Russia’s larger army and ability to produce military equipment compared to Ukraine’s need to have weapons given which has slowed because NATO/US is out of weapons to send and it takes time make new ones.

One big takeaway: Weapons and equipment can’t hold ground, it takes a lot of soldiers to do that. Just seeing estimate of 11,000 Ukrainian soldiers trapped near or in Pokrovsk. If it’s half that it’s a big deal.


38 posted on 11/08/2025 8:44:39 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (Annnd....TRUMP IS RIGHT AGAIN.)
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Make peace, end the war Zelenskyy 🤷🏼‍♂️🤡🤡🤡


39 posted on 11/08/2025 8:45:06 AM PST by TnTnTn
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To: TnTnTn

Negotiations are at a complete standstill, Russia has an offer on the table, Ukraine has rejected all of it. A lot of observers saying the outcome will be determined on the battlefield since neither side will budge from their positions.


40 posted on 11/08/2025 8:49:31 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (Annnd....TRUMP IS RIGHT AGAIN.)
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